National Suicide

[CelticMist]

Celticmist138

Thank you for the link to that article. It was very illuminating on the present status of Quebec versus the rest of Canada. It made me do a little digging, and I found Wikipedia's article on Quebec had some interesting things to say about the whole Quebec drive toward independence over the years. I didn't realize that the last vote had been so close! As a mostly French society, I guess I can understand why they want out from under England's thumb. We did in America, too, and we were mostly British at the time we did it! (1776)

As for the rest of Canada, wow! They all want to become independent countries? That's fascinating. Is that what you were saying? I also can see where the Maritimes want nothing to do with the US: they all have extensive histories, going way back, and are very protective of their own interests and their unique heritage. And I understand that feeling; it's perfectly reasonable. I wish I could remember where I read the idea of their seeking to join the US if Quebec broke away would be in their best interest, but I can't . This is all very interesting!

And thanks for the vote of confidence about the chips. I know some people really think it'll never happen, and all they seem to do is this:
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I know many Maritimers and its not that they stated they would join America... it was more like they will have to join in order to survive. They will be cut completely off from the rest of their country if Quebec becomes her own country. The maritimers would have to get passports... just to go visit in Ontario or vacation in Alberta. To avoid driving through Quebec, which does not speak English, they would have to alter course through the NE states of America then back up north into Ontario.

They would have to give up the medical care Canada has for everyone, give up all other benefits that Canada gives to their people; Old Timers pension, Canadian pensions.. etc. I can understand why many of them would not want to be part of the USA. Really who would want to give up the mecial care... going from not paying a cent if your are hospitalized, regardless the length of stay, to having to pay thousands of dollars for just a 48 hour stay? They would have to be out of their minds!!! They would rather pay the steep tax 17% cross the board, then have to pay like we do here in America.

Canada has more to lose than we in America, and Mexico has nothing to lose, but will gain much when this merge takes place. (imho)



Agree again that
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have their heads in the sand. They don't want to be proven wrong... when they know it is coming but deny it all the way to the head of the line.

[farmgirl]

There are even some states in our country that might try to seceed (sp?) if the NAU is pushed too hard. A few have suggested the idea in Vermont. I don't think citizens of any of the three countries are really behind this, that's why the meetings are so secretive.

[CelticMist]

The thing that gets me.. they will let only a little out at a time.. to the public... how much has really been done behind those "closed doors"?

[farmgirl]

:idunno You'd think with a government for the people and by the people the "people" would know huh. I think the "people" need to speak up and find out. Who do you write to or call? It seems like our representatives are not even involved with this.

[CelticMist]

There are even some states in our country that might try to seceed (sp?) if the NAU is pushed too hard. A few have suggested the idea in Vermont. I don't think citizens of any of the three countries are really behind this, that's why the meetings are so secretive. Succeed, in what?

The government is allowing the people to get a piece here and a piece there... its not so secretive if we all are hearing about the NAU forming. If you know what I mean? The government is not letting us know ahead of time ... in most meetings... that they are in fact coming together to discuss and sign our countries away ... talk about betrayal.... :doh and people still uphold them all ... :shocked

[eve_anne_gelical]

In case your wondering if I am being an alarmist check this out, seems as if GWB is busy giving away other countries too.

While the war between the Serbs and Kosovans is RELIGIOUS in nature (Christian vs Muslim) there is Bush being applauded ( By the Muslims)....

Mind you I voted for GW in both elections and even gave money to support his litigation in the first election but, this man has "LOST HIS MIND"\\

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/11/bush.europe/index.html

GOD saves ...

Oh don't get me started on this ! This subject outrages me. An Islamic state is basically being raised up in the heart of Europe and the Christians have been run out of and burned out of Kosovo the bed of Orthodox Christianity. There was soooo much propoganda by the Muslims and exageration regarding the Serbs and the so called 'genocide' during the Balkan war which we stepped into. All the mosques and muslim enclaves in Kosovo have been financed by Saudi and Iranian money and Bush appaulds this raising up of of an Islamic portion in Europe. Does anyone think it will stop with Kosovo ? !
Why the Bush support ? Oh the Saudi's have surely whispered in his ear and of course he wants our Muslim friends around the world to see we are not against Islam. I could go on and on about this suject, I have been to Serbia and this whole thing is a outrage ...thank God Russia has declared they will veto any UN vote to make Kosovo soverign 'state'

[MidwestMama]

Succeed, in what?


Secede, as in pull out of the country.

There are organizations in Vermont and other states that are trying to secede from the US and become independent.

[CelticMist]

Secede, as in pull out of the country.

There are organizations in Vermont and other states that are trying to secede from the US and become independent.
:shocked I didn't know that!!! Wow, like Vermont will be able to get their own "country"? Wonder how they will survive... they don't have all the resources to operate on their own. Wonder if they have the money for import taxation? Its the second lowest state in population, lowest is Wyoming. Survey this year showed it was a leading state of unhappy workers and the majority of them would depart the state for another. In 2006, 16% of their bridges were found structurally deficiet. Wouldn't want to be vacationing there outside the metro areas, communication on cell phones would come to a cease due to weak signals. There's a lot of negative things that makes Vermont an unlikely state to live in. Talk about "suicide" for a state among this nation. They would have a "State suicide" if they broke away from the nation.

I know at one time Vermont was claimed by France; but, England possessed it after the defeat of the French and Indian War. So, they are listening to their Canadian Province, Quebec?

Its a state that is known for their dairy products and maple syrup... outside that they have no other "resources" of "their" own to operate as a country. Wonder who they will have supply their needs... their commerical needs to survive? Maybe Quebec has promised them they would help; maybe France has done the same as they have with Quebec. :idunno

If they want to break away from the rest of the nation, let them. They would not hamper the country due to the small source of material this country gets from them... dairy products and maple syrup (two things the rest of the nation does not solely depend on).

I don't think it will ever see the breaking away! The cost alone would keep them in deep debt for along time.

[Tenbear2808]

I too voted for Bush and while I am extremely unhappy with him and the Republican party, which is no longer resembles the party I supported, I WOULD NOT have ever voted for the alternatives.

All you have to do is see their idiocys of now days to see where they might have taken this nation.

God gives us choice, period. We the people set up this two party system and let it fester. We stopped holding our representatives accountable for their actions as long as it didnt effect us.

So we can all cast blame, there is no one out there to step into the office of the President and that God places men into office and He removes men from office - so while we may not like what we see, how do we know that God didnt place Him there because this country had to go in a certain direction to fulfill prophecy?

And dont you think its a bit funny that the Clintons as soooooo close to the Bushes? My My My - I dont really see a difference in what either Party wants they just choose different ways to get there. :idunno

[CelticMist]

I too voted for Bush and while I am extremely unhappy with him and the Republican party, which is no longer resembles the party I supported, I WOULD NOT have ever voted for the alternatives.

All you have to do is see their idiocys of now days to see where they might have taken this nation.

God gives us choice, period. We the people set up this two party system and let it fester. We stopped holding our representatives accountable for their actions as long as it didnt effect us.

So we can all cast blame, there is no one out there to step into the office of the President and that God places men into office and He removes men from office - so while we may not like what we see, how do we know that God didnt place Him there because this country had to go in a certain direction to fulfill prophecy?

And dont you think its a bit funny that the Clintons as soooooo close to the Bushes? My My My - I dont really see a difference in what either Party wants they just choose different ways to get there. :idunno

They are from the same organization from their college days. They stick together like flies on a pig's tail... sure they get :fly from time to time.. but they come right back. Hmmm... Bush(1989-1993), Clinton(1993-2001), Bush(2001-2009), possible Clinton(2009-20XX), Bush (20XX-)... do we see Rulers here or what? Sorry... just thought that and wrote the first thing that came to mind. Prior to Katrina you would have thought the Bush and Clinton families were enemies not bossom buddies.

Our government has been heading down the prophecy path way before this Bush got in office. I don't think it was God's doing that he got in.