Autism in US Court

[Michelle95]

Opening a can of worms here but I think this fits into end times because we (humanity) are hurting ourselves with all the medications and the likes (dyes, preservatives, pesticides, etc) we are putting into our bodies. A sign of the times.

My son did not have problems until within 2 weeks after his 18 month old shots. He went from a normal child to a raving animal. While I was researching what was wrong with him, I came across this theory. It's interesting to note that 1) mercury toxicity (Hg was in thimerisol) symptoms are similar to autism and 2) children were receiving upwards of 50 times the safe exposure to Hg in a single day with some of these shots. As a nurse, I understand that I can give someone a lortab, they will be fine...but if I give them 50 at one time...well, you know what happens.

Thimerisol has been a known toxin for a long time and finally the FDA asked Big Pharm to stop using it....BUT they didn't ask them to pull it. They let them use the ones already made up. Waste not, want not...at the expense of our children.

ABA therapy costs thousands of dollars...not to mention behavior medications and other medical expenses.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The parents of 12-year-old Michelle Cedillo asked a federal court Monday to find that their child's autism was caused by common childhood vaccines, a precedent-setting case that could pave the way for thousands of autistic children to receive compensation from a government fund set up to help people injured by the shots.

Wearing noise-canceling headphones, Michelle, of Yuma, Arizona, was brought into the courtroom in a wheelchair at the start of the proceedings before the U.S. Court of Federal Claims. She stayed only a short time.

Her parents, Theresa and Michael Cedillo, allege that a preservative called thimerosal that had been used in vaccines weakened their daughter's immune system and prevented her body from clearing the measles virus after she was immunized for the disease at age 15 months.

Today, Michelle suffers from a long list of health problems, including severe autism, inflammatory bowel disease, glaucoma and epilepsy.

"We hope to find out what happened and hopefully get the help she needs," said Theresa Cedillo, who takes care of her daughter full time at home.



http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/conditions/06/11/autism.vaccines.ap/index.html

[funmudder]

My second son changed dramatically after his 2 year old shots......my 4 year old got salmonella(and was hospitalized for 2 weeks) from his 2 week old shots (no more shots for that boy!) and we opted out of any shots on our daughter....just too dang risky IMO.

[vhowell]

I have a child with autism. She had a horrible reaction to her Pertussus vaccination - the pediatrician said it was the worst in over 4000 of his patients....She screamed for hours, her leg (where she got the shot) got hot to the touch, swelled up like a balloon, turned red....this went on for about 5 hours and then she got better.

Of course, you can't PROVE that her vaccination CAUSED her autism, since she was just a baby when she had the shot.

But i would like to wring the neck of every so-called "expert" that insists such a thing could never happen, that these shots are safe, bla blah blah. She never got another pertussus shot after that one.

They said Vioxx was safe, too.........

[24SEVEN]

My 3 yr old granson (4 in August), was diagnosed in April, 2006 with autism. Too many children are being diagnosed... there has to be a reason other than just genetics. Also, I know of sets of twins where one will be affected, but not the other... :idunno

[Biblenuggetlady]

I suggest anyone who has an Autistic child to contact Autism Society of America www.autism-society.org and get educated, do not trust what you find online! My child is autistic also, and while I agree health issues today are in large part due to chemicals, hormones, antibiotics, pesitcides in our foods etc. Autism is NOT caused by the MMR shots. I took a 7 week long course on Autism and it was very informative and made us aware of many groups out there that are making a $ off these families with errant conclusions and diets, homeopathic treatments, etc.

[vhowell]

I suggest anyone who has an Autistic child to contact Autism Society of America www.autism-society.org and get educated, do not trust what you find online! Autism is NOT caused by the MMR shots. I took a 7 week long course on Autism and it was very informative and made us aware of many groups out there that are making a $ off these families with errant conclusions and diets, homeopathic treatments, etc.

I already belong, but thanks for the link for others. I belong to several groups, in fact.

My daughter's shot was the pertussis, not the MMR. I respectfully beg to differ, but it could have been her shot that caused it, and no one will ever convince me otherwise. Most of those studies are by the same doctors that tell us this stuff is safe.

The only thing that has helped my daughter (besides her behavioral therapy) is a mostly organic diet. That's not too off the beaten path. I agree with you - don't buy into alternative treatments, I agree there are many quacks out there.

But I have heard from several parents whose child is autistic who ALSO had extreme reactions to vaccines. That evidence shouldn't be just shrugged off, as often times it is. The medical community HATES being shown wrong on anything.

[Jeremiah333]

I have a child with autism. She had a horrible reaction to her Pertussus vaccination - the pediatrician said it was the worst in over 4000 of his patients....She screamed for hours, her leg (where she got the shot) got hot to the touch, swelled up like a balloon, turned red....this went on for about 5 hours and then she got better.

Of course, you can't PROVE that her vaccination CAUSED her autism, since she was just a baby when she had the shot.

But i would like to wring the neck of every so-called "expert" that insists such a thing could never happen, that these shots are safe, bla blah blah. She never got another pertussus shot after that one.

They said Vioxx was safe, too.........

Same with my son. He went comatose within seconds of having the pertussis shot. We were still at the drs office. He was three months old, and changed forever. The Dr said of course, that he could never have another P shot in the DPT. He is almost 18 now. We've been through 17 1/2 yrs of 24/7 care of this autistic child. I know there are people out there who don't believe this is the the case, but there is no doubt in my mind what happened to him. None at all.

[DaveRB]

Nephew became autistic after MMR.

Dave

[Biblenuggetlady]

vhowell :hug I was just addressing the MMR shots and the thimerisol issue. I surely don't have all the answers, but simply wanted people to beware of information found online and on radio programs. Just yesterday there was a radio show on Autism and a referrral given to people to contact one of the institutions that has been proven to be a fraud. I just say...be cautious and don't believe everything you read or hear.

There was a study done at UCLA on MMR shots and autistic children. The number of cases of children who have continued to get autism has not dropped, but increased since the Thimerisol has been removed, so if MMR and mercury were the cause you would expect the numbers to go down not increase.

I knew from the day my son was born that something was not right, it just took years to get the proper diagnosis, however. My children are 27 years to 11 years...my youngest is the autistic child and he is completely different than my other children, even in physical make up (he has 5 siblings). I have an autoimmune disease too, so I do feel that there is some environmental factor or corrupted food supply that is causing many of these disorders.

I apologize vhowell if my post came across wrong or that I had all the answers, I do not. I just know that from my classes there is a lot of misinformation out there, and due to my own experiences with doctors, etc...people need to be well informed and cautious is all. :)

[Michelle95]

Respectfully, Biblenuggetlady..there are different types of autism. The kind that you are born with and the kind that comes along after a period of normalcy. My son was normal up until the point that he wasn't. I know that there has never been "scientific proof" that vaccines cause autism...but, there's just too much of a coincidence that people are having problems with their children almost immediately AFTER injections.

Vaccines have a place. I believe that. But, not vaccinating against every disease that comes along. How can it be a good thing to stick 7 different vaccines in your body in one day and have your immune system be pulled in each direction? I still vaccinate my son...but, I do not allow them to stick him with more than 2 shots in one day. I, also, make darn sure that he takes no shot with thimerisol (flu shot still has it) in it.

The lag in autism rates could also be accounted for the children that were still getting thimerisol are only about 7 years old. There will be delayed diagnosis and this could be the reason that the rates are not going down. Or, more likely, it could be a combo of things that causes autism and vaccines are one of the triggers. I dunno. :idunno

I do know it has made me want to go into research. Too long I have had no answers...it has made me want to answer the questions myself.

You are right about watching where you get information....but, unfortunately, that includes the doctor, the cdc and the fda. Could you imagine the lawsuits if it were found autism were linked to vaccines? Man....the fda wouldn't let that happen.

It's interesting to note that in the Patriot Act...a rider was slipped that disables people from suing Eli Lilly for particular reasons. Hey, how'd that get there? :rolleyes And, what did that have to do with terrorism?