The Blood Moon Theory

[HisAlways]

What's The Point?
That brings me to my point, and to make it, I'll use the back scheduling tool again. In order for the Lord to return in the fall of 2015, Daniel's 70th week will have to begin the fall of 2008, a few months from now. That means that over the summer, the Battle of Ezekiel 38 will have to take place, and God will have to re-introduce Himself to Israel, bringing them back into an Old Covenant relationship that results in Biblical Judaism becoming the official and national religion of Israel.

I don't think this is written precisely anywhere in the Bible. The Ezekiel war is not certain to happen BEFORE the rapture.

[dramama]

I don't think this is written precisely anywhere in the Bible. The Ezekiel war is not certain to happen BEFORE the rapture.

It is a conclusion drawn from studying Ezekiel 38 and 39 in conjunction with other prophetic scripture and what we know of the millennium (meaning it can't take place at the mid point of the trib or at the end of the trib or at the end of the millennium) and has to happen pre-trib or at the very onset of the trib.....also God's focus is always either on Israel or on the church but not simultaniously.....:thumb

[Gabby]

I don't think this is written precisely anywhere in the Bible. The Ezekiel war is not certain to happen BEFORE the rapture.

I agree with you, HisAlways. The timing of Gog/Magog is ambiguous, at best. And I've never seen anything in Scripture that makes me believe the Trib immediately follows the Rapture, either. From all I've gathered, the signing of the Peace Treaty could be anytime after the Rapture...from immediately to possibly years. Just my own thoughts on it all.

[Gabby]

It is a conclusion drawn from studying Ezekiel 38 and 39 in conjunction with other prophetic scripture and what we know of the millennium (meaning it can't take place at the mid point of the trib or at the end of the trib or at the end of the millennium) and has to happen pre-trib or at the very onset of the trib.....also God's focus is always either on Israel or on the church but not simultaniously.....:thumb

I'm with you on this, too. Just to clarify my previous post...I'm of the belief that Gog/Magog can be anytime before or after the Rapture ~ up until the mid point. But not in the middle or end of the Tribulation.

[dramama]

I agree with you, HisAlways. The timing of Gog/Magog is ambiguous, at best. And I've never seen anything in Scripture that makes me believe the Trib immediately follows the Rapture, either. From all I've gathered, the signing of the Peace Treaty could be anytime after the Rapture...from immediately to possibly years. Just my own thoughts on it all.

gog/magog...3.5 years before the trib (makes sense after studying it to me anyway). I think rapture is pre-gog/magog or concurrent with it....JMHO

[Kknight]

I don't think this is written precisely anywhere in the Bible. The Ezekiel war is not certain to happen BEFORE the rapture.

Very true...and that article doesn't say it does:


But that can't happen till there's a Temple. There hasn't been a Temple in Israel since 70AD and there won't be one until the Jews decide they need one. That won't happen until God reinstates their Old Covenant relationship, signaling the start of Daniel's 70th week. And that can't happen till the Battle of Ezekiel 38-39 is won, because it's Ezekiel's battle that officially draws the Jews back to God. (Ezek. 39:22) And that can't happen till the Church is gone, because the Church and Israel are mutually exclusive to Him. (Romans 11:25 & Acts 15:13-18) And that brings us to the present, because there is no preceding event for the Rapture of the Church. It could happen at any time.

I'm not aware (off the top of my head) of any pre-trib prophecy teachers that believe Ez. 38-39 happens before the rapture. There is disagreement as to whether it happens before the Trib, during the Trib, or at the end of the Trib (as part of Armageddon)...but I think the consensus is near universal that it is post-rapture.

[dramama]

Very true...and that article doesn't say it does:



I'm not aware (off the top of my head) of any pre-trib prophecy teachers that believe Ez. 38-39 happens before the rapture. There is disagreement as to whether it happens before the Trib, during the Trib, or at the end of the Trib (as part of Armageddon)...but I think the consensus is near universal that it is post-rapture.
:thumb God's attention is back on the Jewish people after gog/magog (ezekiel 39) so the church isn't here....:yeah

[Kknight]

My view is that it is post-rapture, pre-70th week...but there are good scholars and teachers (Hal Lindsey being a prominent example) that believe Gog/Magog is part of Armageddon. I don't think that works for a number of reasons, but it is worth pointing out that there are differing views by people that are much more "learned" than any of us are.

[Gabby]

Very true...and that article doesn't say it does:



I'm not aware (off the top of my head) of any pre-trib prophecy teachers that believe Ez. 38-39 happens before the rapture. There is disagreement as to whether it happens before the Trib, during the Trib, or at the end of the Trib (as part of Armageddon)...but I think the consensus is near universal that it is post-rapture.


I might be wrong here, Kknight ~ but I believe that Dr. Fruchtenbaum teaches it could be anytime from now until Rapture, OR after the Rapture. I can't remember for sure...it's been a while. But as I was reading his book, I was a bit surprised and the more I studied the more I agreed with him.

Ok, got curious so looked it up and I did find this answer from him: (certainly just a brief summary, but still...)


In your book "The Footsteps of the Messiah" you mention Russia attacking Israel. How would the U.S. allow any country attack Israel? Are we going to change our view towards Israel? Finally, do you anticipate the rapture to be in our life?

While names of countries change, what does not change is the actual geography these names are applied to. Magog was located between the Black and Caspian Seas and therefore the invasion must ultimately be led from that territory, regardless of what that territory may be named at that time. Whether it be Russia, the Soviet Union, the Commonwealth of Independent States, or whatever, what the actual name will be at the time of the invasion is less important than the actual territory. At the present time it is still inside of Russia. Because it is right on the line of the Islamic part of Russia, it might easily break off and become independent. If so, then that would be the source of the invasion. The big issue is that the actual territory has to be the territory between the Black and Caspian Seas, regardless of what the name of the country may be or its religious persuasion at the time of the invasion.

As to how the U.S. would tolerate an invasion of Israel, we must be careful not to try to interpret these prophecies with the way things are now. Rather, we will have to wait and see what things will be like then. It is obvious the invasion is aimed towards Israel. It is also obvious that while other countries might protest the invasion, there is no interference with the invasion. Yes, at the present time the U.S. would not tolerate an invasion of Israel. But we cannot know what will happen say ten years from now when things will be quite different and we have a different president. One major reason why the U.S. has been supportive of Israel is because of the strong evangelical influence in this country, which will cease to exist the moment after the Rapture. We do not know which comes first: the rapture or the invasion.

As to whether the Rapture will come in our lifetime, I firmly believe it could. At the same time I firmly believe we could all die of old age before it happens. I choose not to guess God’s timetable on this matter.


http://www.ariel.org/qa.htm
He goes into great detail in his book, btw.

[Biblenuggetlady]

Here are THREE blood moons in a row, and on feast days

Jan. 31, 2018 Tu B'Shvat
July 27, 2018 Shabbat Nachamu
Jan. 21, 2019 Tu B'Shvat

Then another blood moon on:
May 16, 2022 Pesach - Passover

Here are two blood moons in a row, both on Purim:

Mar. 14, 2025 Purim
Mar. 3, 2026 Purim

Then again, 2 in a row on Passover and Sukkot:

April 14, 2033 Passover
October 8, 2033 Sukkot

Later on:
Jan. 31, 2037 Tu B'Shvat


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