The Blood Moon Theory

[Betty]

Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

My preacher says we are born as a baby in water and in the Spirit when we get saved.
The water being that the water must break before the baby comes through the birth canal and the Holy Spirit brings us into a new birth with salvation.
Some people think that it means the gifts of the spirit, but the Bible makes it clear as Christians we all have different gifts. Like Paul says we all can't be an eye or a hand.
Hope this helps.
betty

[Buzzardhut]

Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

My preacher says we are born as a baby in water and in the Spirit when we get saved.
The water being that the water must break before the baby comes through the birth canal and the Holy Spirit brings us into a new birth with salvation.
Some people think that it means the gifts of the spirit, but the Bible makes it clear as Christians we all have different gifts. Like Paul says we all can't be an eye or a hand.
Hope this helps.
betty

I've always viewed the "born in water as a baby" a weak explanation.
I've used the same explanation too
I think it has to do with the living water - the word and the gospel

[Angelita]

Are only those that have received the Holy Spirit going to be taken? (I am not asking to debate, I just am seeking knowledge

I think so because the 5 virgins left behind were lacking oil or Holy Spirit. Also on judgement day they say Lord we did this and that in your Name and Jesus says depart from Me ...I never KNEW you.

Also God says in psalms 50 what right have you to preach my word seeing you throw my commandments behind your back. We can't be real Christians with out the Holy Spirit who guides us and leads us into all truth.

[Ali Kat]

To me it makes sense that the rapture, as the harvest of the Church, will be in the fall. Three of the seven feasts that have not been fulfilled yet are in the fall. I believe there are some good arguments for the Feast of Trumpets (a two-day feast) to be fulfilled by the rapture. Now we don't have a clue on the year though! That said, many other Christians think it will be any time of the year or on Pentecost. So either only some of us can know the season or this verse is just about watching signs. :idunno

The only problem is which hemisphere's fall would we use? B/c when it is fall in the US, isn't it spring in, say, Australia? And vice versa? It has been awhile since I had the seasons lesson in school, so I might be wrong.

[gotham]

I've been pondering the passages in the bible in Matthew 24:32-41, where it states that no one knows the day or the hour of the coming of Jesus.

The statement: "no one knows the day nor the hour" is an idiom for Rosh Hashanah. This is because the only Jewish Feast day that begins on the first day of the month as the new moon appears is Rosh Hashanah.

In Jesus' day "no one knew the day nor the hour" of the new moon appearing, it had to be observed and reported by two witnesses to the High Priest of the temple before the blowing of the trumpet (Shofar) would announce the beginning of Rosh Hashanah.

Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known. Jeremiah 33:3

[mfa0830]

The only problem is which hemisphere's fall would we use? B/c when it is fall in the US, isn't it spring in, say, Australia? And vice versa? It has been awhile since I had the seasons lesson in school, so I might be wrong.

We'd use the hemisphere that Israel is in. It all revolves around Israel.
:israel

When He speaks of spring, I believe he speaks of spring in Israel. Same with day, night, fall, summer, dusk, winter, morning, et al. His point of earthly reference is Israel, and so is mine. IMHO

[metroames]

We'd use the hemisphere that Israel is in. It all revolves around Israel.
:israel

When He speaks of spring, I believe he speaks of spring in Israel. Same with day, night, fall, summer, dusk, winter, morning, et al. His point of earthly reference is Israel, and so is mine. IMHO


Took the words right out of my mouth. :) :thumb

[jean]

I am really learning a lot here in RR.

As a result of all the post, i came into a conclusion(Please don't take it as bible truth,this is only my own rationalization).

We read in the bible that we are to pray that the coming of the Lord,will not be in winter and not on sabbath too.(With israel as the reference not any other country).Assuming that this is already the 3 1/2 year of the great tribulation,that the Lord will return the second time for the armageddon,and assuming too that the church was already raptured(therefore the 144,000
is the adressee of the above command on when not to pray for the coming of the Lord.)

With the premises above.Here is my rationalization(in my own opinion).

Maybe the rapture will happen when the 144,000 (who will be sealed for the great tribulation)is already complete(maybe by this time it is not yet complete).This is very difficult to determine,as to the exact time of completion,because those who will be sealed will be those who will accept the Lord Jesus(That is dependent on the man's OWN WILL).

And since the rapture cannot happen without the completion of the 144th jews(because they will be the one who will assume the responsibility to evangelize the left behind unbelievers).

Therefore it is necessary that the G8(minus russia now because it is now G7) becomes G10 first,so that the rise of the AC to whom the G10 will give thier power be fulfilled first,(Then it will rapture)or the other way around(144th completed first or the G10 completed first).Or which ever comes first.The AC's rise in position of a global leader first or the completion of the 144th first before it raptures.


Sorry I am alittle bit confused now, i cannot draw my conclusion now.I am at a lost.

My above premise perhaps is the reason why it is not only difficult to determine the exact day or time,but also impossible for it depends on the 144th. OWN WILL to decide.


I stop here,i am going in circles.

I just have to pray that the 144th be completed or the G10,so that the AC will rise, and then rapture.Which ever comes first,i amquite sure the church will be raptured before the great tribulation.

I am confused(as i have said this is my ratonalization,not:doh to be taken seriously).:candle:rolleyes:scratch:idunno












We'd use the hemisphere that Israel is in. It all revolves around Israel.
:israel

When He speaks of spring, I believe he speaks of spring in Israel. Same with day, night, fall, summer, dusk, winter, morning, et al. His point of earthly reference is Israel, and so is mine. IMHO

[Unworthy]

I must admit, this is all very confusing to me as well. I've seen the videos and stuff about blood moons and such, and if it is true, We still don't know the day or the hour.
Paul said in 1Thes 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. And the Israelites were scattered because they knew not the time of their visitation. Luk 19:44 So, are we obligated to search this out? But if no man knows the day or the hour not even the Son but the Father only, What's the use?

[Buzzardhut]

I must admit, this is all very confusing to me as well. I've seen the videos and stuff about blood moons and such, and if it is true, We still don't know the day or the hour.
Paul said in 1Thes 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. And the Israelites were scattered because they knew not the time of their visitation. Luk 19:44 So, are we obligated to search this out? But if no man knows the day or the hour not even the Son but the Father only, What's the use?:nod


The only problem is which hemisphere's fall would we use? B/c when it is fall in the US, isn't it spring in, say, Australia? And vice versa? It has been awhile since I had the seasons lesson in school, so I might be wrong.Probably for Israel's side since it's for Israel