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billiefan2000
June 10th, 2008, 11:04 AM
http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=857

Episcopal Missions Conference: Don’t Convert, Find Commonality

Missions aren’t what they used to be. An Episcopalian Missions Conference sounded a note very similar to that coming from the emerging church leaders: don’t focus on conversion, find common ground. The article in the Christian Post says it this way:


http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080609/32753_Episcopal_Mission_Conference_Zones_in_on_Con version.htm

On day two of the conference, the Rev. Paul-Gordon Chandler, an Episcopal missionary and author, spoke about working with Muslims. He urged participants to “bridge this chasm of misunderstanding” between Christianity and Islam by not focusing on converting the Muslim, but rather to form an interfaith friendship that explores the commonality between the two faiths.

Chandler said Muslims who are pressured into converting to Christianity suffer what he calls a “total break with society.” He gave as example real stories of Christian converts from Islam in Senegal who were exiled from their community when they followed Christ.

“They ended up getting Jesus, but the rest of their life was hell,” said Chandler, who had lived in Senegal with his parents who were Christian missionaries.

So what is the alternative, Rev. Chandler? To not share the saving gospel of Jesus Christ with them and let them spend an eternity in hell? Hell is not the invention of fundamentalists.

“The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.”

–Psalm 9:17

“And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched…”

–Jesus Christ, Mark 9:43-44

The mind boggles at that last quote: “They ended up getting Jesus, but the rest of their life was hell.” Jesus is not enough. He is no longer all in all. He makes life hell, so it’s better to let the Muslims cling to their idols and keep their family and social connections intact. Jesus clearly said:

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

–Matthew 10:35-38


This apostate pastor has positioned himself against Christ by elevating the social well-being of the Islamic people over their soul’s eternal safety which can be found in Jesus alone. He is one of many doing this today. Our life here is a vapor. It’s what comes after that matters forever.


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Abigail
June 12th, 2008, 06:10 PM
“They ended up getting Jesus, but the rest of their life was hell,”

Oh my!! What does he think every one of the first century Christians had to contend with?? :faintIt's not about this world but the next...so sad...

FaithContender
June 13th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Nothing about the Episcopalian Church surprises me anymore:ohno:tsk

billiefan2000
June 13th, 2008, 11:31 AM
Nothing about the Episcopalian Church surprises me anymore:ohno:tsk

you arent alone.

The Episcopal Church is very lukewarm and liberal in my town

Joseph G. Burnett (the Bishop for the Episcopal Church of Nebraska)

promoted (along with 6 far-left churches in Omaha) a few months ago the new-age guru Matthew Fox

(see) http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=30239

not to mention he has the Episcopal Churches here supporting a inter-faith campus that has yet to be built

(see) http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=34963

FaithContender
June 13th, 2008, 03:14 PM
you arent alone.

The Episcopal Church is very lukewarm and liberal in my town

Joseph G. Burnett (the Bishop for the Episcopal Church of Nebraska)

promoted (along with 6 far-left churches in Omaha) a few months ago the new-age guru Matthew Fox

(see) http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=30239

not to mention he has the Episcopal Churches here supporting a inter-faith campus that has yet to be built

(see) http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=34963

Do you remember hearing several years ago about an Episcopalian pastor who was living a double life as a Druid? That was my cousin's church. They guy was defrocked, but he managed to leave a lot of theological damage in his wake. I'm pretty sure it was he who preached that when the Bible talks about homosexuality, it doesn't mean homosexuality the way we understand it today, so it's not relevant:rolleyes My cousins still hold to that position as far as I know. They are really liberal now.