View Full Version : Neo-Nazis gain (municipal) govt. seats in Germany.
J.J.
June 11th, 2008, 02:57 AM
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=5224.3513.0.0
Wow, I guess they didn't learn that national socialism is bad the first time around.:doh
tigger
June 11th, 2008, 07:17 AM
That's scary.:tsk
NewLifeinHim
June 11th, 2008, 10:40 AM
It is actually terryfying!
*shudders*
Machiavelli
June 11th, 2008, 07:47 PM
There have always been small-scale extreme right wing tendencies in Germany, ever since WWII ended. The seats that were won will probably be lost again at the next election: it's probably more likely to be a 'protest vote' than any form of National Socialism resurgence.
cbressler1976
June 11th, 2008, 08:10 PM
I think in a way they are desperate for a change...and they are just going down the wrong path....If they would only embras Jesus....that's the problem with this world...we need Jesus...but too many people don't believe that...
antsinmypants
June 12th, 2008, 12:43 PM
There have always been small-scale extreme right wing tendencies in Germany, ever since WWII ended. The seats that were won will probably be lost again at the next election: it's probably more likely to be a 'protest vote' than any form of National Socialism resurgence.
Exactly. For them to get *any* seats in parliament is in and of itself a miracle, not to mention that it is a minimal amt of seats, they won't have any part in any of the political coalitions (not that anyone wants a part of them).
They got municipal seats in Saxony -- former East Germany. Technically, it isn't a suprise. The East is having a hard time overcoming a lot of racist thought and nazi and communist sympathetic sentiment, especially for people who grew up behind the wall.
If they were outright nazi or communist, they would be unable to practice politics here in Germany as those both are illegal activities (Speaking out against democracy and being racist). The sad thing though, the NPD wiggles and squiggles their speech and letters and propaganda so that they are 'OK' and slip under the radar. :rolleyes
More news on the story here (http://www.thelocal.de/12381/20080609/) and here (http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3399477,00.html)
From the second article:
...The NPD is ostracized by all the main parties and there have been attempts to have it banned as unconstitutional. A law outlawing the party was struck down by the Constitutional Court in 2003...
One must get more information than just provided to understand the entire circumstance before black balling an entire nation or political system. :preach
Logicon
June 12th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Why do they connect right wing with Nazi's the same as they do right wing with Christians and conservatives. They aren' anywhere close the same.
Why do people never learn from history? What is it that they expect the Nazi's to do for them that others don't'?
scapegoat
June 12th, 2008, 11:47 PM
Why do they connect right wing with Nazi's the same as they do right wing with Christians and conservatives. They aren' anywhere close the same.
Exactly. Since when are "Socialists" right-wing? :idunno
Machiavelli
June 14th, 2008, 03:22 PM
Exactly. Since when are "Socialists" right-wing? :idunno
I don't mean to be rude, but the difference between 'Socialism' as the perceived left wing ideology I think you're referring to, and National Socialism (Nazism) is so vast it's almost unthinkable.
Nazism, or National Socialism, is justly called 'right wing' because the extreme (and I emphasise, extreme) end point of right-wing ideology is dictatorship or fascism, which is what Nazism is.
You can't think that Nazism is 'left wing' or 'socialist' just because it has 'socialism' in the name. North Korea is called 'The Democratic People's Republic of Korea', but I don't remember the last time they had an election. Many times, names are chosen to cushion the blow of what a person or group is trying to implement. If they called it from the outset 'militarian fascism', the Nazis might not have got as far as they did.
scapegoat
June 14th, 2008, 11:16 PM
I don't mean to be rude, but the difference between 'Socialism' as the perceived left wing ideology I think you're referring to, and National Socialism (Nazism) is so vast it's almost unthinkable.
Is it?? I don't think so....
Nazism, or National Socialism, is justly called 'right wing' because the extreme (and I emphasise, extreme) end point of right-wing ideology is dictatorship or fascism, which is what Nazism is.
Are you denying that there are dictators on the left?? :twitch
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