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billiefan2000
June 12th, 2008, 06:50 PM
Collateral Damage of the Purpose Driven Pastor

Published June 12th, 2008 by Editor in Purpose Driven, Rick Warren


Rick Warren’s Purpose Driven church growth model promotes the concept that in order to get your God’s church where you God wants it to be for your God’s glory, you will have to do church differently.


And some people will have to die or leave to complete these changes.

These "blessed subtractions" are viewed as necessary losses to gain a greater number in the crowd that you are building.

Well, here’s a picture of one of those blessed subtractions deducted from a church at the hand of the Purpose Driven Pastor…

Then one day my son asked, "Daddy, why aren’t you teaching Sunday School? Did you do something wrong?" I assured him I did not do anything wrong, and that I was taking a break from teaching.

A few weeks later, my son asked, "Daddy, aren’t we going to church today?" A few months later, my son asked, "Daddy, aren’t we going to go to church anymore? Can we go back, please?"

Read the rest of the collateral damage caused by the Purpose Driven model at Watcher’s Lamp.

http://watcherslamp.blogspot.com/2008/06/collateral-damage-of-purpose-driven.html

And ask yourself this… Does Rick Warren have any moral, ethical, social, legal or biblical responsibility for the consequential harm that his program generates?

Does the Southern Baptist Convention share this responsibility as well since Rick Warren is a Southern Baptist minister?

http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=5178

billiefan2000
June 12th, 2008, 06:52 PM
Watcher's Lamp article:

Collateral Damage of the Purpose Driven Pastor

My eight year old son's Sunday School class ended 10 minutes before the class that I taught ended. He would quietly open the door, find a seat and listen and wait for his father. The room of adults loved rubbing his head and hugging on him. My son and and I would then meet up with my wife and 13 year old daughter to attend service. This went on for about 2 years.

Then one day my son asked, "Daddy, why aren't you teaching Sunday School? Did you do something wrong?" I assured him I did not do antyhing wrong, and that I was taking a break from teaching.

A few weeks later, my son asked, "Daddy, aren't we going to church today?"

A few months later, my son asked, "Daddy, arent we going to go to church anymore? Can we go back, please?"

I did not tell my son that:
- the pastor had lied, manipulated, and breached confidentiality (a civil offense under the Commonwealth of Virginia)
- I was removed as a Sunday School teacher for refusing to back down from my originally confidential and discreet position on the Purpose Driven program.
- I was no longer welcome to attend Sunday School at this church.
- the pastor refused to respond in writing for my removal which occured without a vote by the congregation that originally voted to install me as a teacher and a deacon
- the pastor told my Sunday School class I was removed for challenging his authority
- the deacons claimed I was removed temporarily for an investigation they did not conduct
- the pastor's refusal to allow the congregation to hear the either side of the complaint
- my fellow deacons cutoff the mediation process with a mediator from the state convention
- my fellow deacons sent me a letter stating that they see no evidence of pastoral misconduct or theological issues with Purpose Driven.

No, I did not tell my son these things, but he knew something bad happened because he saw it on the faces of my wife and daughter.

It may be hard to prove in a court of law that Rick Warren owns vicarious liability for the social and emotional harm that was done to my family.

But Warren and his pastor network will have their ultimate Day in Court with The Judge of The Ages.

This is my family's story, and you can read my appeal to the men referred to in this post here.

http://home.comcast.net/~jfl734/Deacon_Address.htm

Does Rick Warren have any moral, ethical, social, legal or biblical responsibility for the consequential harm that his program generates?


Does the Southern Baptist Convention share this responsibility as well since Rick Warren is a Southern Baptist minister?

See related article: Dismembered By Purpose Driven Pastors , SBC President Not Interested In the Victims of Purpose Driven


http://watcherslamp.blogspot.com/2008/06/collateral-damage-of-purpose-driven.html

FaithContender
June 12th, 2008, 07:13 PM
:faint:tsk

Sing4Him
June 12th, 2008, 08:00 PM
Thanks for posting this billiefan. Incredible.. and yes, the SBC should have some responsibility for this. :ohno

billiefan2000
June 13th, 2008, 11:33 AM
Thanks for posting this billiefan. Incredible.. and yes, the SBC should have some responsibility for this. :ohno

I agree.

The SBC is IMO fully responsible for the Apostasy problems it is having to deal with,

the SBC has to realize it is because of Warren and other False Teachers creeping into the SBC that is causing people to leave in droves.

The SBC needs to clean house AND kick out the false teachers and false teachings within the SBC

FaithContender
June 13th, 2008, 03:11 PM
Is Saddleback still a member of the SBC?:scratch