Cancer Patient offered Suicide but NOT Treatment!

[Anddra]

No one can blame you for that. The death of a child is so terribly painful and all-consumming. You did what you had to do at the time so please don't second guess yourself now. That will only cause yourself more pain that you do not deserve in any way, shape or form. :hug :bighug :hug

Amanda's Mom is right. Suing would only have made things even more difficult for you when you were already suffering terribly from the loss of a son. Placing the whole matter in the Lord's hands is much more effective.

:hug

[Inprayer]

From the link:

"We have been warning for years that this was a possibility in Oregon," said the "Bioethics Pundit" on the Bioethics blog. "Medicaid is rationed, meaning that some treatments are not covered. But assisted suicide is always covered."

I thought assisted suicide was illegal? Guess I'm not up to date.

It's illegal except in Oregon.

[denny272]

There's that slippery slope again.

Step #1: A law is passed making assisted suicide legal so that terminally ill patients are able to choose when they will die and will be allowed to do so with dignity.
Step #2: Begin suggesting the option of suicide to the elderly and/or terminally ill.
Step #3: Refuse to cover treatment that might bring healing or, at least, prolong life.
Step #4: Enforced euthanasia. The right to decide will be taken from the patient and the patient's family. Doctor's or government will determine if a patient should be allowed treatment or if the patient shoud be euthanized.

Soon we will be at step #4 in Oregon. Then it will spread across our nation.

:faint It sure looks that way.

[Cd4u_2]

From the link:

"We have been warning for years that this was a possibility in Oregon," said the "Bioethics Pundit" on the Bioethics blog. "Medicaid is rationed, meaning that some treatments are not covered. But assisted suicide is always covered."

I thought assisted suicide was illegal? Guess I'm not up to date.

yep

[Southern Grace]

For a long time this subject has been very difficult for me to talk about. In May, 2006, my only child was euthanized. He was 29 years old and suffering from what was termed "end stage lung disease." The lung disease itself had been directly caused by high dose chemotherapy he had received during a stem cell transplant for Hodgin's Disease in 2003. After repeated bouts of Pneumonia, his lungs were wearing out. When he arrived in the hospital in Knoxville, Tennessee three weeks before his death, he had one collapsed lung and the other with a soft ball sized cyst on it. He was not responding well to medication and since he was on Tenncare medicaid, there seemed little concern or compassion for this young man. He no longer had cancer. He was talking to me the morning of his death about the garden he was planning. His heart was fine. His kidneys were fine. There was mention of a double lung transplant but the fact he was on Tenncare seemed to deter any plans for that. I offered them one of mine since I am in perfect health but they just brushed me off. As the pulmonologist made his rounds that morning he told my son he was going to help him rest and that he did with a fatal dose of morphine and attivan. Within seconds his blue eyes widely dilated and rolled back in his head. His stats immediately went down. The very worse part of it was as I cried for my precious son, his stats started coming back up and I looked up as he touched the top of my head. I then looked toward the nurse who was standing near. Still in shock I thought a miracle was happening. She disappeared into the hallway and then came back with the doctor. This time he requested a double dose by raising two fingers, the nurse returned, and the doctor literally finished my son off.

Euthanasia is going on in this country folks. It's happening in hospices and in hospitals. Neither my son nor I requested it. Adolf Hitler was a mad man. Not only did he commit genocide against millions of the Jewish people, he also routinely euthanized his own people~~the weaker ones. He wanted to create the "master race". I some times wonder if this is what we are evolving into here.:tsk

Oh my goodness! I am so at a loss for words I can't even express, for the tears in my eyes reading this. Jean, my heart aches for you. You truly are an angel for the attitude you have shown in this situation. You are so compassionate towards others on this board and such a blessing! :hug You are a shining example of how Jesus would want us to respond to "situations" in our lives. Lord if only my attitude was half this special! :pray
Your story and your son's will most definitely touch people in this world. You just "touched" mine as you will never know. I am praying for you dear Jean :pray Love as always :hug

[twinkle]

Oh my goodness! I am so at a loss for words I can't even express, for the tears in my eyes reading this. Jean, my heart aches for you. You truly are an angel for the attitude you have shown in this situation. You are so compassionate towards others on this board and such a blessing! :hug You are a shining example of how Jesus would want us to respond to "situations" in our lives. Lord if only my attitude was half this special! :pray
Your story and your son's will most definitely touch people in this world. You just "touched" mine as you will never know. I am praying for you dear Jean :pray Love as always :hug

Dearest sister Jean, You are one of the kindest people I know. How you have dealt with your heartache is so full of grace that I see Jesus in you more than anyone else I've ever known...

I'm so sorry for your pain. May God's mercy be upon you as struggle with this awful deed. Your suffering is so undeserved. I'm sorry that I hadn't understood better what happened to your son before now. I should have been better at comforting you. Please accept my comfort and love today and everyday. :hug

I agree with every word by Southern Grace...

[Legacy]

For a long time this subject has been very difficult for me to talk about. In May, 2006, my only child was euthanized. He was 29 years old and suffering from what was termed "end stage lung disease." The lung disease itself had been directly caused by high dose chemotherapy he had received during a stem cell transplant for Hodgin's Disease in 2003. After repeated bouts of Pneumonia, his lungs were wearing out. When he arrived in the hospital in Knoxville, Tennessee three weeks before his death, he had one collapsed lung and the other with a soft ball sized cyst on it. He was not responding well to medication and since he was on Tenncare medicaid, there seemed little concern or compassion for this young man. He no longer had cancer. He was talking to me the morning of his death about the garden he was planning. His heart was fine. His kidneys were fine. There was mention of a double lung transplant but the fact he was on Tenncare seemed to deter any plans for that. I offered them one of mine since I am in perfect health but they just brushed me off. As the pulmonologist made his rounds that morning he told my son he was going to help him rest and that he did with a fatal dose of morphine and attivan. Within seconds his blue eyes widely dilated and rolled back in his head. His stats immediately went down. The very worse part of it was as I cried for my precious son, his stats started coming back up and I looked up as he touched the top of my head. I then looked toward the nurse who was standing near. Still in shock I thought a miracle was happening. She disappeared into the hallway and then came back with the doctor. This time he requested a double dose by raising two fingers, the nurse returned, and the doctor literally finished my son off.

Euthanasia is going on in this country folks. It's happening in hospices and in hospitals. Neither my son nor I requested it. Adolf Hitler was a mad man. Not only did he commit genocide against millions of the Jewish people, he also routinely euthanized his own people~~the weaker ones. He wanted to create the "master race". I some times wonder if this is what we are evolving into here.:tsk

First... :hug :crying:bighug I am SO sorry you had to go through this...BUT, you are quite the inspiration for others. :hug

Next, my heart literally dropped and I'm still shaking a little. I think they tried to euthanize my FIL. :faint We always knew there was something really weird going on when he had surgery for his cancer. He had no money and no insurance when he was diagnosed with cancer of the esophagus (sp?). He literally got kicked out of one hospital and told not to come back unless he had money or insurance. At this point in his cancer, he could not swallow ANYTHING...not even his saliva. NO ONE would perform the surgery without at least $100,000 up front. Well, he was literally dying of thirst and starvation when we found a doc that would perform the surgery with $600 downpayment. After the surgery, he did great for 2 days, then started to go downhill fast suddenly and without reason. They had him on a ventilator and all sorts of machines. As the days went by with no improvement, they put him on a medicine--I can't remember the name of it (diprovan maybe?). They were supposed to give him one bottle and let it wear off as it was powerful stuff. They gave him 82 bottles continuous drip. This man was a fighter and he wouldn't give up. He eventually got out of the hospital and was later declared cancer free. One year later, he died with his body totally rittled with cancer. And he never got over the effects of the meds...we never really got him back.

I wonder if they tried killing him. We always thought they did. They would have continued giving him the med until he died if my MIL hadn't started doing some serious research and then threw a FIT (they called the cops on her) until they took him off the med. They could have done it cheaper and faster, but they knew what they were doing was wrong.

I think this happens a whole lot more than most are aware of. So, so sad.

[Cd4u_2]

speaking of cancer,

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,363941,00.html

I think I would avoid chemo too..

It's hard to tell if medicines does more harm than good.. because my mom took lexapro, and she never been the same since. My aunt on the other hand, took one for herself from the same package (her doctor prescribed the same thing to her) and she was fine. I read that if you begin to act strange after taking medications or something like that and never recover, it is a sign that your body is shutting down , like the liver can't function well as it used to be.. so I guess it is like putting poison in your body.

[Reason&Hope]

It's illegal except in Oregon.

At our local arts fair in Washington state, people were collecting signatures for a "death with dignity" initiative.

It sounds so nice, doesn't it? Death with Dignity. But in Danish hospitals and elsewhere, people are now routinely killed by their doctors when they become too much of a "burden".

[jadeeyes]

I'm very concerned about my daughter's MIL. She's diabetic, has had a foot wound for at least a couple of years, has suffered 2 minor strokes and a silent heart attack. The diabetes has damaged her kidneys and she has a congestive heart. She's been to the er, deathly ill and the er doc would want to admit her and her primary refuses. I saw her several hours ago and she looked and sounded terrible. She's having difficulty breathing but her doc told her she'll be fine after prescribing an inhaler, an antibiotic and a pill that is supposed to be cough medicine. The doc told her to put it in her mouth and make sure she swallows it immediately with water or it will numb her entire throat. She says she's feeling worse instead of better since she's been taking her meds. I just wish her doc would take her complaints more seriously and give her the treatment she needs. I think he's killing her through neglect.