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Inprayer
June 20th, 2008, 08:11 AM
Hearts Grow Cold! (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=67565)
MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
State denies cancer treatment, offers suicide instead
'To say, we'll pay for you to die, but not pay for you to live, it's cruel'
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Posted: June 19, 2008
11:15 pm Eastern
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
State officials have offered a lung cancer patient the option of having the Oregon Health Plan, set up in 1994 to ration health care, pay for an assisted suicide but not for the chemotherapy prescribed by her physician.
The story appears to be a happy ending for Barbara Wagner, who has been notified by a drug manufacturer that it will provide the expensive medication, estimated to cost $4,000 a month, for the first year and then allow her to apply for further treatment, according to a report in the Eugene Register-Guard.
But the word from the state was coverage for palliative care, which would include the state's assisted suicide program, would be allowed but not coverage for the cancer treatment drugs.
"To say to someone, we'll pay for you to die, but not pay for you to live, it's cruel," Wagner told the newspaper. "I get angry. Who do they think they are?"
(Story continues at link)
Well I'm certainly glad that there are no abuses of the state assisted suicide laws.:ohno
imfree
June 20th, 2008, 08:38 AM
This is just inexcusable! So evil!
jadeeyes
June 20th, 2008, 09:51 AM
There's that slippery slope again.
Step #1: A law is passed making assisted suicide legal so that terminally ill patients are able to choose when they will die and will be allowed to do so with dignity.
Step #2: Begin suggesting the option of suicide to the elderly and/or terminally ill.
Step #3: Refuse to cover treatment that might bring healing or, at least, prolong life.
Step #4: Enforced euthanasia. The right to decide will be taken from the patient and the patient's family. Doctor's or government will determine if a patient should be allowed treatment or if the patient shoud be euthanized.
Soon we will be at step #4 in Oregon. Then it will spread across our nation.
felixthecat
June 20th, 2008, 12:07 PM
Atleast this person was given a choice.
Aborted babes are not and that's considered "compassionate".
It all highlights how life has been devalued. Now they're pushing it more on adults - "scarce resources" - $$$$$ - healthcare - so you feel guilty ... .
Do you really think the next generation is going to have a heart for you? Parents weren't around when they were growing up ... unexpected babies are considered an "unusual punishment" by Obama and he's pretty popular . So with health care being a "crisis" why wouldn't they offer suicide as the "compassionate" answer for you?
Don't get me wrong. I don't agree with this . I'm just pointing out the direction society has been taking, by choice.
felixthecat
June 20th, 2008, 12:09 PM
From the link:
"We have been warning for years that this was a possibility in Oregon," said the "Bioethics Pundit" on the Bioethics blog. "Medicaid is rationed, meaning that some treatments are not covered. But assisted suicide is always covered."
I thought assisted suicide was illegal? Guess I'm not up to date.
I Believe!!!
June 20th, 2008, 12:22 PM
I'd tell the doctor, "You first".
jadeeyes
June 20th, 2008, 12:25 PM
From the link:
"We have been warning for years that this was a possibility in Oregon," said the "Bioethics Pundit" on the Bioethics blog. "Medicaid is rationed, meaning that some treatments are not covered. But assisted suicide is always covered."
I thought assisted suicide was illegal? Guess I'm not up to date.
Oregon legalized it a few years back. :ohno
funmudder
June 20th, 2008, 12:36 PM
Logans Run anyone?
run2Jesus
June 20th, 2008, 12:38 PM
For a long time this subject has been very difficult for me to talk about. In May, 2006, my only child was euthanized. He was 29 years old and suffering from what was termed "end stage lung disease." The lung disease itself had been directly caused by high dose chemotherapy he had received during a stem cell transplant for Hodgin's Disease in 2003. After repeated bouts of Pneumonia, his lungs were wearing out. When he arrived in the hospital in Knoxville, Tennessee three weeks before his death, he had one collapsed lung and the other with a soft ball sized cyst on it. He was not responding well to medication and since he was on Tenncare medicaid, there seemed little concern or compassion for this young man. He no longer had cancer. He was talking to me the morning of his death about the garden he was planning. His heart was fine. His kidneys were fine. There was mention of a double lung transplant but the fact he was on Tenncare seemed to deter any plans for that. I offered them one of mine since I am in perfect health but they just brushed me off. As the pulmonologist made his rounds that morning he told my son he was going to help him rest and that he did with a fatal dose of morphine and attivan. Within seconds his blue eyes widely dilated and rolled back in his head. His stats immediately went down. The very worse part of it was as I cried for my precious son, his stats started coming back up and I looked up as he touched the top of my head. I then looked toward the nurse who was standing near. Still in shock I thought a miracle was happening. She disappeared into the hallway and then came back with the doctor. This time he requested a double dose by raising two fingers, the nurse returned, and the doctor literally finished my son off.
Euthanasia is going on in this country folks. It's happening in hospices and in hospitals. Neither my son nor I requested it. Adolf Hitler was a mad man. Not only did he commit genocide against millions of the Jewish people, he also routinely euthanized his own people~~the weaker ones. He wanted to create the "master race". I some times wonder if this is what we are evolving into here.:tsk
ALS6347
June 20th, 2008, 12:52 PM
That's a good analysis of the situation. Since human beings are not seen as creatures made in the image of God this can now be done. If the Lord does not take us home soon I think that we will see step# 4 applied in this nation.
The Baby Boomers are starting to retire and that is putting a tremendous strain on our health care system. Add in other factors such as rapidly rising food and fuel costs and it won't be too much longer until the government decides to murder "useless eaters" for the good of society.
There's that slippery slope again.
Step #1: A law is passed making assisted suicide legal so that terminally ill patients are able to choose when they will die and will be allowed to do so with dignity.
Step #2: Begin suggesting the option of suicide to the elderly and/or terminally ill.
Step #3: Refuse to cover treatment that might bring healing or, at least, prolong life.
Step #4: Enforced euthanasia. The right to decide will be taken from the patient and the patient's family. Doctor's or government will determine if a patient should be allowed treatment or if the patient shoud be euthanized.
Soon we will be at step #4 in Oregon. Then it will spread across our nation.
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