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CarolinaGirl
June 30th, 2008, 01:32 PM
I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this topic, so please move this if it isn't. (This is the first thread I'm starting) :)

I have a friend who is a Catholic. Well, she has grown up as one, but through talking with her, she is starting to not agree with the RCC anymore.

Anyways, she was sexually abused as a child growing up. She never got any help for it, and now has turned to a psychiatrist (and to God too, she is praying about this as well) for help.

The psychiatrist sent her home with a lot of pamphlets about sexual issues. I haven't seen these pamphlets, but she was telling me about them and something that she read didn't sit well with her, and when she told me about it, it didn't sit well with me either.

She said that the pamphlets talk about how young children are sexually attracted to their parents and how it is totally normal for a parent to feel sexually attracted to their children, especially while changing their diapers.

This just totally grossed me out and made me angry that a psychiatrist is handing this information out to their patients. I totally don't think that those are "normal" feelings.

What do you all think? I see this, in a way, as a way to sort of indoctrinate people into thinking that this type of stuff is "normal". Or have I gone completely mad and maybe it is normal, just I haven't experienced it?

You need to encourage your friend to seek help from a Christian Counselor, not a Psychiatrist. My sister went to a Psychiatrist for a long time before she became a Christian. The Psychiatrist totally messed her up. All he did was prescribe medication and did not help her resolve issues. When she did become a Christian, she and her husband went to a Christian Counselor and it helped her and her marriage. But Jesus was the one that changed my sister not any counselor. By the way, a lot of Psychiatrist and Psychologists have mental issues of their own. I almost became a counselor myself and discovered that the field is filled with very liberal ungodly ideas. Its a long story but now I am getting an MBA.

Biblenuggetlady
June 30th, 2008, 01:38 PM
Tell your friend to find a different therapist! A Christian would be preferable, but with medical coverage these days that some times not possible, I speak from experience. Sexual abuse by a parent changes you forever and your friend needs some Godly advice and counsel, not someone who is going to tell her what happened was "normal", she'll end up even more messed up. :pray God helps us forgive, but even after forgiveness...we never forget the past or completely heal from the wounds from it. This type of thing in those brochures is Freudian and that man was VERY anti-God.

Amanda's mom
June 30th, 2008, 02:00 PM
I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this topic, so please move this if it isn't. (This is the first thread I'm starting) :)

I have a friend who is a Catholic. Well, she has grown up as one, but through talking with her, she is starting to not agree with the RCC anymore.

Anyways, she was sexually abused as a child growing up. She never got any help for it, and now has turned to a psychiatrist (and to God too, she is praying about this as well) for help.

The psychiatrist sent her home with a lot of pamphlets about sexual issues. I haven't seen these pamphlets, but she was telling me about them and something that she read didn't sit well with her, and when she told me about it, it didn't sit well with me either.

She said that the pamphlets talk about how young children are sexually attracted to their parents and how it is totally normal for a parent to feel sexually attracted to their children, especially while changing their diapers.

This just totally grossed me out and made me angry that a psychiatrist is handing this information out to their patients. I totally don't think that those are "normal" feelings.

What do you all think? I see this, in a way, as a way to sort of indoctrinate people into thinking that this type of stuff is "normal". Or have I gone completely mad and maybe it is normal, just I haven't experienced it?
I'm sorry, but that's TOTALLY off the wall. It is not normal for parents and their children to be sexually attracted to each other. That is a perversion.

Mezuzas
June 30th, 2008, 04:11 PM
Richard Garner started a lot of this. Sometimes marriages break up because of the husband/male parent molesting the children. Richard Garner coined up parental alienation syndrome and said that the mothers were just as much to blame because they weren't loose enough in bed and that they needed vibrators and such to please their husbands better. He said there was a little pedophilia in all of us and that there was nothing wrong with a male parent having relations with his daughters and that the children were seductive little things. Many many women/mothers have lost custody of their children based upon his little syndrome and his testimony in courts all over the country and the children have been given to their abusers. So, mothers have been increasingly afraid in this country to protect their children for fear of losing them to the abusers. After all, the children will be abused less if the male parents just have the kids every other weekend versus living with their abusers.

It's something that has had me very upset and angry over the years. I know there's nothing I can do about it and it's all part of the times and all, but it's still depressing at times if I were to dwell on it.

Children and caring parents really have it bad in this country.

Psychiatrists have embraced Richard Garner's standards over the years.

seekingtruth1
June 30th, 2008, 04:43 PM
WHAT??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?! :puke:puke:pukeRichard Garner started a lot of this. Sometimes marriages break up because of the husband/male parent molesting the children. Richard Garner coined up parental alienation syndrome and said that the mothers were just as much to blame because they weren't loose enough in bed and that they needed vibrators and such to please their husbands better. He said there was a little pedophilia in all of us and that there was nothing wrong with a male parent having relations with his daughters and that the children were seductive little things. Many many women/mothers have lost custody of their children based upon his little syndrome and his testimony in courts all over the country and the children have been given to their abusers. So, mothers have been increasingly afraid in this country to protect their children for fear of losing them to the abusers. After all, the children will be abused less if the male parents just have the kids every other weekend versus living with their abusers.

It's something that has had me very upset and angry over the years. I know there's nothing I can do about it and it's all part of the times and all, but it's still depressing at times if I were to dwell on it.

Children and caring parents really have it bad in this country.

Psychiatrists have embraced Richard Garner's standards over the years.

Jennifleur
June 30th, 2008, 04:44 PM
I believe some of these ideas were originally from Freud. It's sad that anyone takes them seriously.

cbressler1976
June 30th, 2008, 05:57 PM
what?!? I think that psychiatrist needs to see a psychiatrist

FaithContender
June 30th, 2008, 06:30 PM
The Psychiatrist totally messed her up. All he did was prescribe medication and did not help her resolve issues.

:nodThat's all psychiatrists are trained for. If you want talk therapy, you need to see a psychologist or a counselor.

Forgiven13
June 30th, 2008, 10:14 PM
You need to encourage your friend to seek help from a Christian Counselor, not a Psychiatrist. My sister went to a Psychiatrist for a long time before she became a Christian. The Psychiatrist totally messed her up. All he did was prescribe medication and did not help her resolve issues. When she did become a Christian, she and her husband went to a Christian Counselor and it helped her and her marriage. But Jesus was the one that changed my sister not any counselor. By the way, a lot of Psychiatrist and Psychologists have mental issues of their own. I almost became a counselor myself and discovered that the field is filled with very liberal ungodly ideas. Its a long story but now I am getting an MBA.


I have told her. But she is Catholic and she went to the priest at her church and he told her to see a psychiatrist. I told her about the Christian counselor on staff at my church and how she gives rates based on income, but she said she can't afford it. :(


Richard Garner started a lot of this. Sometimes marriages break up because of the husband/male parent molesting the children. Richard Garner coined up parental alienation syndrome and said that the mothers were just as much to blame because they weren't loose enough in bed and that they needed vibrators and such to please their husbands better. He said there was a little pedophilia in all of us and that there was nothing wrong with a male parent having relations with his daughters and that the children were seductive little things. Many many women/mothers have lost custody of their children based upon his little syndrome and his testimony in courts all over the country and the children have been given to their abusers. So, mothers have been increasingly afraid in this country to protect their children for fear of losing them to the abusers. After all, the children will be abused less if the male parents just have the kids every other weekend versus living with their abusers.


I didn't know all this. This makes me so angry as well. It really is a sad world we live in. :(

Angie

steve53
June 30th, 2008, 10:23 PM
OK, now I think I'm gonna be sick . . . .