Oil Near $146 - July 3

[Issachar]

Oil soars to record near $146 amid concerns over hefty drop in US stockpiles, Iran conflict more (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080703/oil_prices.html)

Issachar

[dpetty]

I fully expect oil to be $175 by August at the rate it is moving. I also believe the Arabs are fudging the numbers on the amount of "honey sweet oil" they really have, which is part of the reason the prices keeps going up along with the dollar decline.

[lovinlife4]

:hairout it's not going to stop anytime soon. When is somebody going to drill already?

[Deputyez]

When Obama says to I,m afraid....never:ohno:twitch

[Issachar]

it's not going to stop anytime soon. When is somebody going to drill already? Imho, drilling will not help. Go ahead and drill as it may make a difference down the road ... 10-15 years?, but that idea is based on the erroneous belief that oil prices are going up because of the free enterprise model of supply and demand; the idea being that if there is more supply, price will come down. Well, there are no shortages. The supply is adequate. If the numbers are correct, then barely, but nevertheless, adequate. There are no gasoline lines as in the seventies waiting for gasoline, and there is no industry shutting down just because it couldn't get more oil. No, the problem is a political/NWO one, not supply/demand.

Issachar

[Jennifleur]

I've seen this headline before. The only difference is the number after the dollar sign...

I've heard that the average is expected to hit $5/gallon by Labor Day.

[Issachar]

About six weeks ago they were saying $5 by the 4th of July. We're still around $4. I think the powers that be are seeing the need to more gradually take the price up. The longer they can keep things somewhat "normal" with inflation, the more wealth transfer that they can accomplish. So maybe Labor day .....

Issachar

[I'm all 67X]

Imho, drilling will not help. Go ahead and drill as it may make a difference down the road ... 10-15 years?, but that idea is based on the erroneous belief that oil prices are going up because of the free enterprise model of supply and demand; the idea being that if there is more supply, price will come down. Well, there are no shortages. The supply is adequate. If the numbers are correct, then barely, but nevertheless, adequate. There are no gasoline lines as in the seventies waiting for gasoline, and there is no industry shutting down just because it couldn't get more oil. No, the problem is a political/NWO one, not supply/demand.

Issachar

That's exactly right. This is a dollar (NWO/political) issue, not an oil issue. Look up Paul Proctor's latest article which gives total clarity to that.

[Jubilee21]

Sort of a round about way to take to come back to the point I want to try to offer heare as a prayerful considertation..

"if" we continue to look at the rising costs of oil and try to correlate the problem as a spirtual one manifesting itself upon us as an evil "out to get us",the point being that its not just about how we look at things from our eyes but to see them through God's eyes. Peter was running across the water to Jesus and in the middle of one heck of a storm..but so long as he kept his eyes on God, he neither saw that storm or the fact he was literally walking on water..

Once he got focused on the miracle that He was experiencing, then came the fixation upon the strom..he turned something that was not a problem from Gods perspective back into one IMHO...personified things, his feelings, God, the storm, the miracle and took all the dots and connected them the wrong way..100% right about the facts and details but 200% wrong becasue he got caught up in focusing upon them,,

we may be making a grave error, it will dominate how we interpret this in every aspect it affects our lives in a very dysfunctional and neurotic way of coping with it all..

An example would be how the response would be altered if one took the stance is a medical condition and requires medical treatment..when being pregnant is neither illness or disease at all...but it gets pigeon holed as a medical experience and entire wings of hospitals now cater to this that for most of history was an event of life that when its season came went on without any hospital present during it..

Seasons..certainly we all can look at oil prices and tellourselves, this is a very rough season indeed,, but does this make it "bad", or a design of evil parties we search and find to blame for that rage that is being fanned by the conclusions we draw when we tellourselves..the NWO is dragging us kicking and screaming into these horrendous events?

Thats what I hear and observe..a lot of conclusions and story lines we offer for why these things are happening..and a theme along the lines:

"we are being dragged into the storm by Satan..we are drowning in the troubles and its all the Devils fault and all the folks who are his children..agenda's agenda's agendas..someone ,some where started all of this and is pulling all the strings and we are all vicitms of it..God, quick come save us!"

I got's to go with this from a different perspective and am trying to see it all from God's eyes..when it comes to much..and I am seeing a designed agenda..but not one that was ever anything but normal , or good..forseeable and takes the eyes back to the designer and His agenda:

A Time for Everything (Ecc. 3:1-11)


There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven:

A time to be born and a time to die,

a time to plant and a time to uproot,

a time to kill and a time to heal,

a time to tear down and a time to build,

a time to weep and a time to laugh,

a time to mourn and a time to dance,

a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,

a time to embrace and a time to refrain,

a time to search and a time to give up,

a time to keep and a time to throw away,

a time to tear and a time to mend,

a time to be silent and a time to speak,

a time to love and a time to hate,

a time for war and a time for peace.

What does the worker gain from his toil? I have seen the burden God has laid on men. He has made everything beautiful in its time.

And so, indeed, our times are in God's hands (see Ps. 31:15).Oh Lord, may we have the discernment to see life from Your point of view, and may we have the wisdom to recognize the beauty of Your plans and purposes as You work through our lives.

We can be like Peter and start to think this to death but once we do, we start to sink back into the storms that God sent..no one else..and we can lose theopportunity to be running to God when we start to get preoccupied that we are relying on our feet when we are trying to figure out how we are walking on water..

In other words are we guilty of making an opportunity God has purposed for us into a "problem" if we allow ourselves to get tunnel vision like Peter did and approach this with a thought like..the problem is a political/NWO one, not supply/demand.


All of sudden we are getting focused back on the situation by turning it into a problem that we personified it into by calling it "bad and evil", just like recharacterizing pregnacy as a medical condition.

What if we did not..what if perhaps we looked at it through God's good design for His agenda..perhaps this no longer about why He is letting "bad things" happen, but more appropriately consisitent with God, that He continues to allow good things to happen..:idunno

I am not too fond of trying to fill a tank of gas when it cos't $5.00 a gallon because for all intents and purpose that is not going to happen..I don't have it, so yep, hardship is on the menu for me, and many others, and it is painful to think of this ..

but then again after the first child I gave birth to ,I no longer lived under the illusion or delussion that there is great pain when it comes to very good things God has designed for only good agenda's of His.

Looking around at these times..I see a season of times that God has ordained and designed for us..for His glory and only for good. I didn't blame the devil or the NWO for the pain and work God put me through for bearing a child ..so if indeed all of this is indeed about the world taking us along for the ride through its storms, then I have to ask myself who created the world and who's agenda is responsible for everything when it comes to the plans for everything? Who is in charge..?

It is not Satan, it never was..he is on a leash and we are not in the Tribulation where his leash is allowed a bit more rope to hang himself on either..

So what are we supposed to do about all of this when it get's complicated..?

Keep living our lives on a high note even when the band plays while the Titanic sink's..

God sends the whales to save a Jonas if he does not want us to come home yet even when we would prefer going under a 3rd time and staying down just so we can leave this silly world and leave the lunatics to run the assylum..

God may just have other plans for this season that will include a ride in the whale of the belly that may also drive us crazy as well, however..it is not a bad thing just because it looks bad or feels bad..

Better to be driven crazy by God because one is crazy for God, than to just end up with a bad case of rabies and driven by crazy by nothing but a nasty bite from someone who is just plain old crazy!

Or as in Peter's case..stop looking at the feet..worrying about the storm and enjoy the ride..or we may find ourselves the only ones we can blame for much we give ourselves room for the Devil to get blame rage when we should be outrageously thrilled we know who is responsible for the agenda and design of everything.

Scorched earth is not always a bad thing.. I grew up with Dirt roads before pavement came along..and made things complicated.

http://famguardian.org/Subjects/FamilyIssues/Articles/DirtRoads/DirtRoads.htm

What's mainly wrong with society today is that too many Dirt Roads have been paved.

There's not a problem in America today, crime, drugs, education, divorce, delinquency that wouldn't be remedied, if we just had more Dirt Roads, because Dirt Roads give character.

People that live at the end of Dirt Roads learn early on that life is a bumpy ride.

That it can jar you right down to your teeth sometimes, but it's worth it, if at the end is home...a loving spouse, happy kids and a dog.

We wouldn't have near the trouble with our educational system if our kids got their exercise walking a Dirt Road with other kids, from whom they learn how to get along.

There was less crime in our streets before they were paved.

Criminals didn't walk two dusty miles to rob or rape, if they knew they'd be welcomed by 5 barking dogs and a double barrel shotgun.

And there were no drive by shootings.

Our values were better when our roads were worse!

People did not worship their cars more than their kids, and motorists were more courteous, they didn't tailgate by riding the bumper or the guy in front would choke you with dust & bust your windshield with rocks.

Dirt Roads taught patience.

Dirt Roads were environmentally friendly, you didn't hop in your car for a quart of milk you walked to the barn for your milk.

For your mail, you walked to the mail box.

What if it rained and the Dirt Road got washed out? That was the best part, then you stayed home and had some family time, roasted marshmallows and popped popcorn and pony rode on Daddy's shoulders and learned how to make prettier quilts than anybody.

At the end of Dirt Roads, you soon learned that bad words tasted like soap.

Most paved roads lead to trouble, Dirt Roads more likely lead to a fishing creek or a swimming hole.

At the end of a Dirt Road, the only time we even locked our car was in August, because if we didn't some neighbor would fill it with too much zucchini.

At the end of a Dirt Road, there was always extra springtime income, from when city dudes would get stuck, you'd have to hitch up a team and pull them out.

Usually you got a dollar...always you got a new friend...at the end of a Dirt Road!

~by Paul Harvey~




God knew this way of life would come and go..and He knew our love of paved roads' would make a mess of a lot of things but God says look ahead..all roads are leading us to Him..

So if it is going to cost me $5.00 gallon of gas..to get there, just like labor is part of having a child..I am learning to thank God for all of this and certainly am not going to give credit God deserves for allowing it to happen

By turning itinto "blame" I give credit to Satan for or anyone else..I am not going to turn $5.00 a gallon gas into "my feet" and like Peter, sink into the water, whe it is so much more fun to walk on it!

Either way Christ will still be there waiting for me..but Christ also has offered a better way to enjoy the season we are in as well as it storms..thats all!

Have a blessed 4th folks..go and relax,and enjoy your families and let God deal with the price of Oil and all of those fireworks.

God is very consistent in spite of us..we are too in spite of His consitency..we forget there are seasons, and get caught up in just the storms of one that is more about inconvience than harm we may have to endure until the time is fulfilled for all the seasons God has planned for us and will provide for us in them...and through them..:yeah

He just carries on and He has given us so many ways to see how He goes about this as our Creator and Father...don't help, confuse or let Satan turn things God has designed for us into "problems"..:hug

[Issachar]

however..it is not a bad thing just because it looks bad or feels bad.. Some good reminders Juilee! :)

Speaking only for myself ... I do believe that there are folks making a new world order come about. The process will change how we live. As a believer though, I see us as more "separate from the world" than many do; or at least, express. Our freedom, our rest, our peace, is in Christ. He doesn't change. The "world" can do this and do that and I don't really care. Even where it affects me and my family personally, as it is right now and will more, in the (near?) future. I stand apart from the "world" and watch. I not things because some things are signs. I personally do not care if gasoline went to $12/gal. I personally don't care how crazy things get. Why? As you stated, God is in control. One of many verses my wife and I enjoy remembering and are strengthened by in our current situation, is Psalm 84:11.

Psalms 84:
11 *For the LORD God is a sun and shield: the LORD will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.

Because of God's grace and mercy in giving us eternal life through His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, God see's us as walking uprightly. That means He will withhold no good thing from us. Therefore, we believe that whatever is happening must be a good thing. Sweet, eh? :) It may not seem like it at the time to the flesh, but I say, Too bad about the flesh. It can go die.

Thanks for the encouraging reminder to keep our eyes on the Lord and not the waves.

Issachar