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Daughter
July 9th, 2008, 12:00 AM
I am so grieved by this!!!! How can they?
They have committed the unpardonable sin, didn't tney? :crying
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Metania1
July 9th, 2008, 12:29 AM
While it is disturbing to hear I do not believe they have committed the unpardonable sin. If anything they have hardened their hearts even further to God and have brought themselves one step closer to the unpardonable sin. The unpardonable sin I believe is to not accept the prompting of the Holy Spirit and accept Christ as Savior. Or to have your sins forgiven. JMHO.
Mickey
July 9th, 2008, 12:39 AM
It is terrible and sad that people feel they need to denounce the Holy Spirit. Interesting, for "non-believers", that they would denounce our God, the Christian God! I did not hear them deny Krishna, Mohammed of Buddha? Interesting - they actually affirmed Christianity!
Rschmidt711
July 9th, 2008, 01:11 AM
It hurts to see these people celebrating the fact that they are denying the only possible Way they can be saved. And it gives me no comfort to know that in the end they will all realize their mistake, but it will be too late. :crying
Daughter
July 9th, 2008, 01:32 AM
The fourth to last was "Philomene". She had a haunted terrified look in her eyes and said she didn't beleive in anything. Very, very troubled woman. I could see that she was being oppressed (or possessed) just by the look in her eyes.
No joy. No real happiness. All lies.
OnceWasLost
July 9th, 2008, 11:27 AM
If they die with that mindset, they will have made a self fulfilling statement. While they have breath, there is hope.
Jen867
July 11th, 2008, 10:17 AM
How can these people "Deny" something that they do not believe to exist? Am I missing something?:idunno
Kamatu
July 12th, 2008, 12:42 AM
How can these people "Deny" something that they do not believe to exist? Am I missing something?:idunno
Besides the fact that atheistic positions are mostly self refuting? There is a reason that a few centuries ago that even though one might deny Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Shinto or any other religion, to deny the existence of a Creator was stupid and they were called stupid atheists.
Daughter
July 12th, 2008, 02:50 AM
I looked up this group of people. They are Raelians. A UFO New-Age cult who claim that the "Elohim", a race of extra-terrestrials came to earth and did some sort of genetic manipulations to create human and animal life. They're also the ones who made the news a few years ago, claiming to have cloned a human.
Their founder is one scary dude. Wow!!! And I thought L. Ron Hubbard was far-out? :twitch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism
Even THEY will be in on the deception!!!!
Raëlians believe that all life on Earth, humans included, was created scientifically by human-like extra terrestrials that are more scientifically advanced than us, called the Elohim, using DNA synthesis and genetic engineering and thus believe in intelligent design. Throughout the ages, Elohim sent different prophets: Moses, Jesus, Buddha, and many others to guide humanity and to prepare us for the future. Largely left to progress on our own, until the time of the Apocalypse/Revelation when Elohim would send their final messenger and reveal the truth for all to know. Raëlians desire to spread that message and work towards building an Embassy where we can officially welcome the Elohim back, and for the first time in human history, actually understand them for who they are, instead of worshiping them as gods, as our primitive ancestors did.[5]
watchman
July 12th, 2008, 06:04 AM
Claude Vorilhon (Rael) had a "Mormon" "Mohammed" type "encounter" the same old song and dance about the Bible being misinterpreted or needing to be "redefined" for better understanding, (this time by an alien instead of an angel, but it is basically the same ol' same ol')
Atheist who claim the bible as "their alien creators" book and "G-d believers" as they call us, stole it and it's truths and added to and corrupted them.
What a deceiver.
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