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Katia_0203
July 10th, 2008, 10:33 PM
I came across this passage during my bible study time and was wondering what your thoughts are on it: Passage Luke 12:46-48:

46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.


Does this mean that those who do not know about Christ will be punished less severely if they die unsaved? If they were never given the opportunity to hear about Christ, can they be held accountable for not choosing to follow him? This is something I've wondered for awhile, but now that I've found a passage that might answer my question, I'd like some input

HeIsEnough
July 11th, 2008, 09:01 AM
The context needs given, I believe.

A very large crowd gathered. It sounds as if the largest one the Lord saw in His day.

He warns about being in fear of men, because He knows full well that men will attack His disciples when He leaves. He reminds them of their importance to the Father, and that the Fathers eyes are upon them. To not be 'puffed' up, like their fellow countrymen.The connection to me is that you will be opposed and very real threats of their lives will happen, but be of good cheer, it is in the Fathers will that this take place.

The work that they would do is worth very great riches. Don't be tempted to 'sit on your laurels' because you've received the riches of heaven, and do not worry over your daily needs, the Father knows what He is giving you, and He knows what you need.

Be prepared, be watchful, ready and doing the service the Father gave them, for Christ comes when those who are lax in their duties least expect Him, because they don't actually expect Him.

Then Peter asks the key question; Is this teaching/parable for the crowd as well, or just for us disciples. He informs them, round about, they will be given much, and much would be expected of them. He informs them that if they know the Fathers will, and they would when the Spirit came because He gave them "the mind of Christ", it would be really bad if they did not do it.

These particular verses give a warning of a possibility, it didn't mean it did or would happen, just that this would be the result.


45But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.These verses are dealing with reality, imo. People who claim to be doing the Lords will, but are ignorant of what His will really is.


47And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.So, does all this transcend, and surely your question would need to be a transcendent truth here because the context is not about unbelievers, to unbelievers and the matter of hell and the lake of fire?

I'm not so sure.

Those in question have a Master, and are called servants. This either places these people as those of Israel, who all belonged to the Lord, they were holy unto Him, or any believer after the cross. It is true that more than a few believers are asleep, and don't think twice of the Lords return, or even scoff at "our" interpretation of what the scriptures clearly state plainly.