Doug pagitt and god’s hopes for the world?

[Sing4Him]

DOUG PAGITT AND GOD’S HOPES FOR THE WORLD?

Here’s the kind of absolute garbage your kids are being taught in your evangelical youth groups through wishful thinking like the following espoused by Emerging Church spokesman Doug Pagitt, pastor of Emergent wolf in sheep’s clothing Tony Jones, from A Christianity Worth Believing, his latest book of foolish fantasy:

Jesus was not sent as the selected one to appease the anger of the Greek blood god. Jesus was sent to fulfill the promise of the Hebrew love God by ending human hostility. It was not the anger of God that Jesus came to end but the anger of people. This world God created is one of peace and harmony and integration. Through Jesus, all humanity is brought into that world. And that is the point of the resurrection.
The story of Jesus Christ, of Joshua the Messiah, is about the healing of all creation. This was God's promise from the start—that people would be God's partners in the world... The Christian faith finds its center in the story of Jesus not because this is where the problem of God’s anger is solved. Jesus is the core of Christianity because it is through Jesus that we see the fullness of God’s hopes for the world. (194, 195)
Huh; “the Greek blood god”? You do know that Yahweh—the only God there is—instituted the sacrificial system to foreshadow Christ’s sacrifice, right. Um, Doug exactly what Bible have you been reading?

O wait; I know, maybe it was the Marcus Borg version—If Only God Was Like Me, Then I Could Love Me Him More

See also:

DOUG PAGITT UNIVERSAL STATEMENT : http://www.apprising.org/archives/2008/05/doug_pagitt_uni.html



http://www.apprising.org/archives/2008/07/godas_hopes_for.html

[Ellen1]

This is just about the worse load of trash I've seen in awhile, and that phrase is becoming a permenant part of my vocabulary sadly enough.
Thanks for posting this Sister.

[His Bride]

Heresy, pure heresy. You know, it's a good thing that He is longsuffering and not wanting any to perish, because this junk would send me over the edge to hurl a huge fireball to the planet to destroy it!

[Janh7]

How did these Emergents get so messed up???
Blasphemy!

[His Bride]

I think this is what happens when you believer the Deceiver instead of the Lord.

[Janh7]

How did these Emergents get so messed up???
Blasphemy!

:doh!
Nevermind

[FaithContender]

How did these Emergents get so messed up???


They threw out Sola Scriptura.

[Ellen1]

They threw out Sola Scriptura.

:thumb Oh so very true!

[OnceWasLost]

More on this insanity. How do they get there from here? Simple, believe the Bible is beyond our understanding. God apparently designed it to be so. Therefor, we can make it up as we go based on culture and our feelings/experience. :fear


This connection between deconstruction and the Bible is especially meaningful, methinks. I am quite convinced that the Bible is a subversive text, that it constantly undermines our assumptions, transgresses our boundaries, and subverts our comforts.

Obviously because the (assumptions and boundaries) are not rooted in scripture.


This may sound like academic mumbo-jumbo, but I really mean it. I think the Bible is a ****ing scary book (pardon my French, but that's the only way I know how to convey how strongly I feel about this). And I think that deconstruction is the only hermeneutical avenue that comes close to expressing the transgressive nature of our sacred text.



This links to a larger article.
http://www.apprising.org/archives/2007/03/tony_jones_subv.html

Deconstruction:
Deconstructionism is a basically a theory of textual criticism or interpretation that denies that there is any single correct meaning or interpretation of a passage or text. At the heart of the deconstructionist theory of interpretation are two primary ideas. First is the idea that no passage or text can possibly convey a single reliable, consistent, and coherent message to everyone who reads or hears it. The second is that the author who wrote the text is less responsible for the piece's content than are the impersonal forces of culture such as language and their unconscious ideology.

Hermeneutics:
The science of interpretation and explanation; exegesis; esp., that branch of theology which defines the laws whereby the meaning of the Scriptures is to be ascertained.



****ing scary?
Nice language for a "church leader" :gaah
Eph 4:29 Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers.
I suppose if you can't trust the Bible and if you can't hear the voice of the Holy Spirit, it may be scary. This guy is seen as a luminary in the movement. That says volumes about the "movement"

[Avonlea]

you know, there are sincere pastors out there who misinterpret Scripture, who get seduced into all manner of heresy.

and then there are people like Doug Pagitt. people who "know" what the Bible says, and who deliberately twist and manipulate God's Word in order to advance their own personal agenda.

i've read some of his materials and it is so obviously a different gospel, that any pastor who allows this man to influence his flock will surely be held to account.

:(