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Octopus
July 26th, 2008, 11:37 AM
Hi all,

Please advise on Gen 2:17 and Gen 3:3

Note the difference in instructions. Any comments?

Thanks :)

Gen 2:17--But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 3:3-- But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen003.html

steve53
July 26th, 2008, 11:44 AM
IMHO the statements are not contradictory nor exclusive of one another, rather they are complimentary. Gen 3:3 expounds on Gen 2:17.
Does that make sense to you?

ingel
July 26th, 2008, 12:53 PM
Hi all,

Please advise on Gen 2:17 and Gen 3:3

Note the difference in instructions. Any comments?

Thanks :)

Gen 2:17--But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Gen 3:3-- But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen003.html

in Gen 2, God is giving instructions to Adam.
in Gen 3 Eve is talking to the serpent. She added the extra not God.

Octopus
July 26th, 2008, 01:58 PM
in Gen 2, God is giving instructions to Adam.
in Gen 3 Eve is talking to the serpent. She added the extra not God.

Since its in the Bible, I can safely assume thats what God told Eve? You mentioned that Eve added the extra portion, there should be a reason.

Anyway thanks

Octopus
July 26th, 2008, 02:00 PM
IMHO the statements are not contradictory nor exclusive of one another, rather they are complimentary. Gen 3:3 expounds on Gen 2:17.
Does that make sense to you?

Hi,

No it doesn't, I clearly read it as an additional instruction. My purpose of this thread is to know why.

Thank you

steve53
July 26th, 2008, 02:39 PM
Hi Back !

Eve may have been guilty of embellishment, or she may very well have had further instruction/clarification from God. The Bible is silent on that specific point. However, IMHO that still does not make the Lord's admonition to not eat of the fruit invalid. She later did both touch and eat of the fruit as we all know.
The real lesson of course is that she did not harken to God's Word. Whether she misconstrued, or embellished His Word is secondary to the fact that she and Adam both disobeyed God.
That's as close to an answer to your "why" as I can get. I hope that helps.

antitox
July 26th, 2008, 07:02 PM
In Gen 2, God instructed Adam ("..the man..") and Adam instructed Eve concerning it because Eve knew about it. Now how it was expounded to Eve, we don't know, but that could be the reason she stated it the way she did.

acceptedinthebeloved
July 28th, 2008, 12:18 PM
in Gen 2, God is giving instructions to Adam.
in Gen 3 Eve is talking to the serpent. She added the extra not God.

Agreed. It was "added" to the Word of God. A perpetual problem...

hilhill
July 28th, 2008, 02:17 PM
in Gen 2, God is giving instructions to Adam.
in Gen 3 Eve is talking to the serpent. She added the extra not God.

Yes, this is the way I have always been taught about this and have always understood it. Eve put words in God's mouth that He didn't say.

Timothy
July 29th, 2008, 04:46 PM
Genesis shows Satan's mode of operation as an "angel of light" and how it involves corruption of the word of God on five fronts.

QUESTION THE WORD OF GOD: Satan's first method is to question the word of God from a positive approach. He wants to raise doubt about it, thereby questioning it. Genesis 3:1 "Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”

SUBTRACT FROM THE WORD OF GOD: Another method is subtraction from the word of God. The example below shows the importance of every individual word. Genesis 3:2 “And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden.” Note that the word freely is left out. See Genesis 2:16 “And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat”

ADD TO THE WORD OF GOD: Satan also will add to the word of God, such as adding law to grace. Genesis 3:3 “But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.” Note that “touch it” is added. See Genesis 2:17 “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

WATER DOWN THE WORD OF GOD: Satan will water down the word of God. Genesis 3:3 “But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.” Note that it is “lest ye die” where the God said “surely.” Genesis 2:17 “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

DENY THE WORD OF GOD: Satan denies the word of God. Genesis 3:4 “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die.” He denies Genesis 2:17 “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”