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BornAgain123
July 28th, 2008, 08:10 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080728/pl_nm/usa_economy_deficit_dc


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration on Monday projected the U.S. budget deficit will soar to a record of nearly half a trillion dollars in fiscal 2009 as a housing-led economic slowdown cuts into government revenues.

The economic and fiscal deterioration will complicate efforts to bring the budget to balance and pose challenges for whoever takes over the White House in January, either Republican Sen. John McCain or Democratic Sen. Barack Obama.

"I believe whoever becomes the next president will have a very, very sobering first week in office," predicted Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, a North Dakota Democrat.

Reacting to the White House's new prediction that the budget deficit will hit $482 billion in the fiscal year that starts October 1, Conrad said that number easily could rise by an additional $80 billion when the full costs of the Iraq war are tallied next year.

The economy has been hobbled by the housing market collapse and soaring food and energy prices. In February, the Democratic-controlled Congress and President George W. Bush approved a $168 billion, two-year stimulus plan to ward off recession.

With the slowing economy and the cost of the economic stimulus plan, the White House said it thinks the deficit will hit a record $482 billion in fiscal 2009. However, it cut its forecast for the current fiscal year to $389 billion.

White House budget chief Jim Nussle cited the government stimulus checks and slower economic growth as primary reasons for larger deficits in 2008 and 2009. "The determination was made that getting the economy back on track was a higher priority than immediate deficit reduction," he told reporters.

In February, the administration forecast the deficit would hit $410 billion this year and drop to $407 billion in 2009.

The new report said the budget deficit would fall to $178 billion in 2010, and surpluses would emerge in 2012.

However, the deficit projections did not include the full amount of funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan or costly tax law changes, and acknowledged it would be a "challenge" to reach surpluses in 2012.

Nussle also poured cold water on the idea of a second economic stimulus package floated by some Democrats and instead pressed lawmakers to approve energy legislation to boost the economy, including permitting offshore drilling.

"The proposals we hear about sound a lot more like election stimulus or political stimulus than it does economic stimulus," Nussle told reporters.

The White House also lowered its forecast of 2008 economic growth to 1.6 percent from 2.7 percent -- bringing it into line with private-sector projections. It said growth should pick up to 2.2 percent next year, showing more optimism than many private economists.

It forecast inflation at 3.8 percent this year, but said it should ease to 2.3 percent in 2009.

"We don't think this is a rosy scenario in any way. We think it's a realistic scenario," said Edward Lazear, chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers.

"Our hope is that we will be through most of the issues that are plaguing those markets right now and that we won't see continued increases in energy prices," he said, adding that falling or stabilizing energy prices will boost the economy.

BUDGETARY STRAINS

In addition to the efforts to give a lift to the economy, the budget has been sapped by the prolonged wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that came as Bush's tax cuts went into effect. Economists have also warned about an expected rise in health care spending as members of the baby boom generation retire.

Democrats have blasted the Republican administration for squandering budget surpluses and nearly doubling the national debt, from $5.6 trillion when Bush took office in 2001 to over $9.5 trillion now.

"President Bush has mortgaged our future with record deficit spending on the wrong priorities," Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. "An unnecessary and extraordinarily costly war in Iraq has turned record surpluses into record deficits."

Nussle defended Bush's fiscal record during an eight-year term that started with record budget surpluses but will end with a record deficit. He said Bush inherited a recession that hurt revenues and needed to quickly ramp up spending on homeland security and the military after attacks on New York and Washington in 2001.

As the White House predicted more red ink, the Treasury Department said it expects to sell $171 billion in debt securities over the July-September quarter, marking its second-highest quarterly borrowing after the January-March quarter's record $244 billion.

It estimated net borrowing through Treasury bonds, notes and bills for fiscal 2008 will total $555 billion, compared with $134 billion a year earlier.

(Additional reporting by Richard Cowan; Editing by Dan Grebler)

kdowd771
July 28th, 2008, 09:53 PM
The more I read about the idiots we have elected into office the more I want to :puke!! 1/2 trillion+ over budget my gosh the printing presses must be glowing white hot from over drive!!!! :shocked

Anyone with a lick of common sense can see the train wreck we have gotten ourselves into. :doh But does congress do anything about it? Nope its business as ususal as long as the parties get themselves re-elected.

EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS DISASTER AND SHOULD BE FIRED!!!!!

I would have so much more respect for our representatives if they just laid it out on the table and made the hard cuts necessary to get our fiscal house in order.

Sad so sad what has happened. :tsk

Frostie7
July 30th, 2008, 08:13 AM
The US govt offsets its budget deficits each year by printing up and auctioning off more treasury bonds. These bonds are typically bought up by institutional investors and foreign governments. The rapid decline in the value of the US dollar has made these treasury bonds unattractive to investors. If the bonds are not sold then the US can not offset the deficit which will mean a drastic reduction in funds to pay for infrastructure projects, medicare, medicaid, social security benefits, defense and all other programs currently being funded. The overall effect will another massive hit on the stock markets and American economy and may signal the onset of a full blown depression.

Issachar
July 30th, 2008, 09:43 AM
Good points Frostie7. I will try to find it again, but the amount of wasteful spending, while way too high, does not contribute that much to the debt. As you mentioned, infrastructure, defense and the three untouchables; Medicaid, Medicare and SS, plus government indoc ... errr ... "education", etc. is the bulk of government spending. That is why it is so hard for them to make the cuts necessary. I say, as did kdowd771, cut out wasteful spending BUT, also increase the value of the dollar. This would bring down the price of government spending so that so many dollars would not be needed and "essentials" can still be funded. Don't worry though about how we can strengthen the dollar so it will buy more ... it won't happen. I'm sure that some folks are tired of my harping on the "fiat economy" that we have, but it is at the root of the problems we have. With a gold standard, an economy will still go through recessions and other "cycles", but at least it can recover from them in a healthy way. With fiat, the only way is to continuously inflate the money supply. It is a continuous downward spiral. That is intrinsic to fiat. Look at who started it and how, and we can see why.

Issachar

HisAlways
July 30th, 2008, 11:16 AM
Every other budget in the US will have a big "gap".......including ours. So, this was predictable. However, I really wish people would research into who is responsible, instead of automatically blaming the current administration.

Everything from typhoons, hurricanes, tornadoes, murders, rapes, sickness and so on is blamed on this president. It's getting old.

SoThankful
July 30th, 2008, 11:30 AM
I'm sure that some folks are tired of my harping on the "fiat economy" that we have, but it is at the root of the problems we have. With a gold standard, an economy will still go through recessions and other "cycles", but at least it can recover from them in a healthy way.
Issachar

Bingo Issachar

out of the box
July 31st, 2008, 01:14 PM
Every tax cut needs to be accompanied by an equal spending cut. Otherwise all you are doing is guaranteeing tax hikes for the children and grandchildren to come, and a softer dollar for them to boot.

Born Again 2006
July 31st, 2008, 02:34 PM
:thinkingTry implementing the US government budgeting in your own life; You would have every "bill collector" and "collection agency" hounding you 24/7. When will our goverment (and individuals) learn that you can not spend more than you earn without having economic disaster?:doh