Is the Psalm 83 War Next on the Prophetic Timeline?

[im4Jesus]

Thanks for posting this.

[Nightelf]

Interesting, thank you.

[TimothyK]

Everything in the Bible is for real. Thanks much.

[Thomas]

I have read the book Israelestine by Bill Salus. I am now passing it to my prophecy student. It's a great book.:thumb

Tom

[4EverHis]

http://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/is-psalm-83-for-real/
Is Psalm 83 For Real?
Q. Blessings to you and your work. Your comments are greatly appreciated and used in our Bible studies.
We have a question re the recent comments on psalm 83. Much as it seems to fit todays situation Hengstenberg points out that the Amelekites mentioned as part of the federation were wiped out in the days of Hezekiah and never heard of again. Is it therefore not more likely that the psalm refers to a ‘confederation which destroyed itself in the days when the Amelekites were still around and that it is us nowadays who want to read more into it than was meant?

A. None of the nations named in Psalm 83 exist by their ancient names today, and several of the people groups have disappeared as well. The Amalekites, Edomites, and Philistines were all wiped out to the last person, and serious doubt exists where the Ammonites and Moabites are concerned. Yet nowhere in the Bible is a battle like the one Psalm 83 speaks of described.
This leads many scholars to conclude that it’s the people currently living in the lands occupied by those ancient nations who are involved. When you look at their proximity to Israel (they’re all next door neighbors) and their unexplained absence from from the roster of Ezekiel 38, it’s logical to conclude that Psalm 83 is a battle yet to come and that it precedes Ezekiel 38.It also explains how Israel could be lulled into a false sense of peace to permit Ezekiel’s battle to take place, and how they could bury the enemy dead in a place that currently doesn’t belong to them but is said to be part of Israel in Ezekiel 39:11.


The Valley Of Hamon GogQ. I was reading your post on Ps. 83 and Ezek. 38, and you commented that the Palestinians would have to give back the land between Jerusalem and Jericho for the burial site. That fascinated me and I tried to map out the Valley of Hamon-gog, but most places map it as Dibon, or being in Jordan. Is that the same place you were referencing? Thank you very much.
A. Ezekiel 39:11 says,

“On that day I will give Gog a burial place in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east toward the Sea. It will block the way of travelers, because Gog and all his hordes will be buried there. So it will be called the Valley of Hamon Gog.”

The burial ground is in Israel, in a valley that’s on the way to the Dead Sea for those traveling East. In Ezekiel’s day, those who traveled East toward the Dead Sea were from the Jerusalem area. People from the northern part of Israel would have traveled south along the Jordan River Valley.

Going East from Jerusalem took one down a steep canyon road, called the Old Jericho Road today. Tour busses still use it to go back and forth from Jerusalem to Jericho. It was a very dangerous road and is the location for the parable of the Good Samaritan. At the bottom of the canyon, just outside of Jericho is a place traditionally called the Valley of the Shadow of Death, from Pslam 23:4. I believe this is the burial ground. In Biblical times this valley was part of Israel, but today it’s controlled by the Palestinians.

http://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/the-vallet-of-hamon-gog/

[4EverHis]

I'm reading Israelestine by Bill Salus. His theory is that the current Palestinian refugees are from the tribe of Esau. They are being backed by the Arab countries surrounding Israel. Their goal is to remove the Jews from their homeland, kill any remnant, then prove that God doesn't keep his word.See any evil in this plan?
As this heats up (which I think we are seeing) Israel will wipe them out with her great army.
This would explain why there are no Arab countries in Gog/Magog.
Check out the book of Obidiah, too.

I have to respectfully disagree. Bill Salus promotes his "theory", and it is exactly that. Gods Word does not state anything at all about Israel having a "great army" or that they will be "wealthy" as Salus states, but rather they will be fighting for their very existence. In fact, the Word of God tells us the opposite. Isaiah 17/ Psalm 83 are the same event. Israel will be isolated from all the other nations, no support at all, they will have depleted their weapons, and be left severely wounded. God leaves His people barely hanging on by a thread. This sets the stage for the Ezekiel 38 war. There are no "Arab" countries in the Gog war because Israel has barely defeated them in the Isaiah 17/Psalm 83 war.

[WanttoKnow]

What's to disagree with? I used the word theory on purpose.

I figure no one knows for sure exactly what will happen but God.

[HisAlways]

I have to respectfully disagree. Bill Salus promotes his "theory", and it is exactly that. Gods Word does not state anything at all about Israel having a "great army" or that they will be "wealthy" as Salus states, but rather they will be fighting for their very existence. In fact, the Word of God tells us the opposite. Isaiah 17/ Psalm 83 are the same event. Israel will be isolated from all the other nations, no support at all, they will have depleted their weapons, and be left severely wounded. God leaves His people barely hanging on by a thread. This sets the stage for the Ezekiel 38 war. There are no "Arab" countries in the Gog war because Israel has barely defeated them in the Isaiah 17/Psalm 83 war. Yea....I have to agree with this. Psalm 83 is the build up to a war, but not an actual war. It talks about the enemies all surrounding Israel, and is asking God for protection against them. I've seen no verse in that chapter that actually indicates battles of war.

[Stan In CA]

I thought the Gog/Magog war was supposed to happen when Israel was at safety and security?

[4EverHis]

I thought the Gog/Magog war was supposed to happen when Israel was at safety and security?

Are you referring to "Safety and security" from 1 Thessalonians 5:3 "Peace and safety"? Paul is talking about the Trib. Israel will know that Gog is coming to invade them.