Is the Psalm 83 War Next on the Prophetic Timeline?

[JFrancisco]

There could be a war with iran before psalm 83 and before gog and magog. In fact the psalm 83 is religiously motivated and Iran does not participate, yet in the economically motivated gog/magog iran is one of the followers of russia. The fact that iran is a follower also speaks to something happening to Iran that will decrease it's influence. You could have a war in Iran that destroys the radical government, psalm 83 a response to that, and ezekiel as an effect of that war. Just because psalm 83 and ezek wars are next in prophecy doesn't mean there will not be wars prior to further set the stage.

I don't see a psalm 83 possible without a regime change in Iran. Iran would be too active in that scenario and bible prophecy is exact.

What I do see is a strike against Iran having a domino effect.

[jadeeyes]

I have my concerns about Iran. I believe that Israel is in a serious predicament. They need to take away Iran's ability to become a nucluear nation. They need to do this for the sake of their own survival. I think there are a lot of nations that really want to see Israel do this, but that doesn't mean that Israel won't be reviled and condemned for doing so and that the nations won't further isolate Israel. If/when Israel does strike Iran and destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities, I believe gas prices will probably go sky high. This will put further pressure on economies that are already struggling to stay afloat. I am convinced that, even though any military exchange between Iran and Israel prior to the Gog Magog War might be very limited, the consequences may be far reaching and may help to lead us even closer to the Gog and Magog War.

[Ariam]

Please help me understand this is bothering me.
When Damascus is destroyed what happens to the Christians there. I know there is remnant waiting in expectation of our Lords return. Thanks
ariam

[Joseph The Carpenter]

Please help me understand this is bothering me.
When Damascus is destroyed what happens to the Christians there. I know there is remnant waiting in expectation of our Lords return. Thanks
ariam

If they are saved they will be with JESUS.:yeah:yeah:yeah

What breaks my heart is that millions there are not saved and they will end up in hell.:faint

[Miss Luci]

then why is everyone worried to death about Iran then?? Israel is not living peacefully and without bars or gates so don't worry about Iran right now.

yes, there might be specific surgical strikes, but don't think this is going to explode into WW3. The Lord has other plans!

Iran and what Iran does in the way of affecting Israel is a negative fashion, such as being capable of developing nukes is definitely a precursor to WWIII. And the large contraversial wall known as the Gilo protective wall is coming down, beginning today. While we do not see Israel dwelling safely in their land, there are things going on behind the scenes in negotiations that the general public is not privy to, such as the dismantling of this wall. This was decided upon without the public's knowledge that anything about the taking down of the wall was being considered. Events can happen extremely fast without anyone even knowing what is going on until after the fact.

http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?144733-Gilo-Protective-Wall-Coming-Down-Sunday


This is definitely a precursor to Ezekiel 38's War, and is a very significant development taking place in Israel. However, I do agree that the Psalm 83 war could start at any time, and be followed shortly thereafter by Ezekiel's War.

[Not Perfect, But Forgiven]

If they are saved they will be with JESUS.:yeah:yeah:yeah

What breaks my heart is that millions there are not saved and they will end up in hell.:faint

Yep, that's pretty much it. One minute they'll be walking down the street, and all they'll see is a bright flash. A split instant later, some will be standing in the presence of God and others burning in Hell. It's a sobering thought when you think about just what's waiting for us on the other side of a heartbeat.

[2ndcoming]

Will Israel airstrike Iran? Scripture is silent about it.But it is very obvious from scripture that Jordan will eventually be drawn into battle after hearing an alarm of war,or a rumor of war.

Jeremiah 49:2 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will cause an alarm of war to be heard in Rabbah of the Ammonites; and it shall be a desolate heap, and her daughters shall be burned with fire: then shall Israel be heir unto them that were his heirs, saith the LORD.

Obadiah 1:1 The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the LORD, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.

What will that alarm of war,the rumor of war be ? Any thoughts ?

[2ndcoming]

Here is my thought:

After seeing the alarm of war,Jordan will be the last one to jump on the bandwagon to battle with Israel.When the war starts between Israel and it's enemies (Lebanon,Syria,Hezebollah and Hamas),Jordan will be reluctant to join the battle because the treaty it has with Israel.But eventually it will.I have attached an old post to explain my view.

Quote.

I found this odd.

Amos 2:1 Thus saith the LORD:For three transgressions of Moab,and for four,I will not turn away the punishment thereof;because he burned the bones of the king of Edom into lime:

What does "the Moab's burning of the king of Edom into lime" get to do with the Lord's anger on them?

I can only think of one possible scenario.When this fourth transgression begins,the king of Edom doesn't want to go into the battle with Israel.This will lead to a revolt in his country.His people will overthrow him.A new leader will arise and replace him.With the hatred toward the Jews,the new leader will join the battle right away.


Or a deeper thought.

Because of his reluctance to go to war with Israel,the king of Edom will be assassinated,cremated ( he burned the bones of the king of Edom into lime ),and buried in a state funeral.His successor will wrongfully accuse Israel and vow for revenge.This will lead to the fulfillment of Amos 2:1.

Amos 2:1 Thus saith the LORD:For three transgression of Moab,and for four,I will not turn away the punishment thereof;because he burned the bones of the king of Edom into lime: 2 But I will send a fire upon Moab,and it shall devour the palaces of Kirioth:and Moab shall die with tumult,with shouting.and with the sound of the trumpet.

End of Quote.

[WILLIAMBEASON1842]

There is a war with Iran that is predicted to come that results in the complete destruction of Iran. It is discussed in Ezekiel 38, 39. HOWEVER!, it is described as Iran (Persia) attacking Israel after Israel is living peacefully, having recovered from a war itself, and living without walls or gates.

Eze 38:8
After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety.


You could hardly describe Israel today as living peacefully. They are constantly threatened by suicide bombers, rockets, Hezbollah, Syria, etc. The Israeli government has built fences on her northern border, fences along the green line that separates the Palestinian areas from Israel proper, and fences around the Jewish settlements within Palestinian areas. This is not an Israel described in Exekiel 38. Also, neither Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon or the Palestinians are described to attack Israel along with Iran. The absence of these nations along with the peace and safety Israel enjoys could be explained in the verse above: "you will invade a land that has recovered from war".

Does Israel go to war BEFORE fighting Iran??
Psalm 83
“O God, do not keep silent; be not quiet, O God, be not still. See how your enemies are astir, how your foes rear their heads. With cunning they conspire against your people; they plot against those you cherish. ‘Come,’ they say, ‘let us destroy them as a nation, that the name of Israel be remembered no more.’ With one mind they plot together; they form an alliance against you—the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, of Moab and the Hagrites, Gebal, Ammon and Amalek, Philistia, with the people of Tyre. Even Assyria has joined them to lend strength to the descendants of Lot. Selah

Do to them as you did to Midian, as you did to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon, who perished at Endor and became like refuse on the ground. Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna, who said, ‘Let us take possession of the pasturelands of God.’

Make them like tumbleweed, O my God, like chaff before the wind. As fire consumes the forest or a flame sets the mountains ablaze, so pursue them with your tempest and terrify them with your storm. Cover their faces with shame so that men will seek your name, O LORD. May they ever be ashamed and dismayed; may they perish in disgrace. Let them know that you, whose name is the LORD—that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”

The nations described correspond to modern day Palestinians, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan. Notice how in the prayer of the Psalmist, he asks for them to be made like a tumbleweed and chaff in the wind. This comes up again in Isaiah.

Isaiah 17
“An oracle concerning Damascus: ‘See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins. The cities of Aroer will be deserted and left to flocks, which will lie down, with no one to make them afraid. The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim, and royal power from Damascus; the remnant of Aram will be like the glory of the Israelites,’ declares the LORD Almighty. ‘In that day the glory of Jacob will fade; the fat of his body will waste away. It will be as when a reaper gathers the standing grain and harvests the grain with his arm—as when a man gleans heads of grain in the Valley of Rephaim. Yet some gleanings will remain, as when an olive tree is beaten, leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches, four or five on the fruitful boughs,’ declares the LORD, the God of Israel.

In that day men will look to their Maker and turn their eyes to the Holy One of Israel. They will not look to the altars, the work of their hands, and they will have no regard for the Asherah poles and the incense altars their fingers have made. In that day their strong cities, which they left because of the Israelites, will be like places abandoned to thickets and undergrowth. And all will be desolation.

You have forgotten God your Savior; you have not remembered the Rock, your fortress. Therefore, though you set out the finest plants and plant imported vines, though on the day you set them out, you make them grow, and on the morning when you plant them, you bring them to bud, yet the harvest will be as nothing in the day of disease and incurable pain.

Oh, the raging of many nations—they rage like the raging sea! Oh, the uproar of the peoples—they roar like the roaring of great waters! Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters, when he rebukes them they flee far away, driven before the wind like chaff on the hills, like tumbleweed before a gale. In the evening, sudden terror! Before the morning, they are gone! This is the portion of those who loot us, the lot of those who plunder us.”

The ancient tribe of Ephraim was given the land that is now occupied by the Palestinians. Aram is the Hebrew name for Syria. Aroer is in Jordan. So the names might be different than in Psalms, but the areas described are the same!

The city of Damascus is destroyed in one evening, most likely from a nuclear bomb from Israel. Those areas not completely destroyed have a spiritual revival and turn to God. This could be the reason these nations aren't included in the following war described in Ezekiel 38. And could also be the reason Israel is living peacefully for a time, having just recovered from war.


So in conclusion, don't look for a war with Iran in the near future. At least one of any significance. There might be some precision strikes, but no regime change or full on WW3. Not yet... First look for a war with Syria, Lebanon, the Palestinians and portions of Jordan.



I have been saying the following for quiet some time and still believe that it is what will probably come about first, but with events taking place this week, with Russia fueling Iran's reactor the 21st, I am now thinking that it could be possible that Israel would attack the reactor, but only the one ready to be fueled. I believe that they would destroy it or at least make it unusable for a very long time. If this should come about, look for all those moslem nations around Israel to attack Israel and try to totally destroy her. Israel will hit back with the end result being those around them will be removed, (Isaiah 17) will be fufilled and for a short time will be at peace. If this happens as mentioned above, Iran will not attack Israel without help, and Russia and all those mentioned in Ezekiel 38 will get together and attack just as soon as possible, maybe within weeks or at most a few months. This could also be the hook that brings Russia into Gog Magog.

1. ISRAEL WILL NEVER ATTACK IRAN BECAUSE AS HISTORY WORKS OUT, THEY WON'T HAVE TO. GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF IRAN. THEY WON'T HAVE TOO.
2. I keep posting here that Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 (I agree that Psalm 83 is a prayer and Isaiah 17 is the answer to the prayer.) is going to come first.
Iran will have their proxies attack Israel believing that they will destroy them and protect Iran from attack, and they may be partly right, by the time Israel has finished this attack from Damascus, Gaza, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the West Bank, they will have expended most of their weapons and have to be very carefull how they use what they have left. I believe that they will have a lot of trouble getting resupplied from the US or anyone else. They will be in a dangerous position, although I don't think they will be unable to defend themselves against small attacks.

3. Rapture, This ends any help comming from the USA as all Christians that will support Israel will be gone and probably the US will be in a state of panic from having so many people missing. Some in the world will not be hurt near as bad as the US.

4. Iran will then be so afraid of Israel that they will be begging Russia, and all the other moslem nations to come help protect them from Israel. This will be the war of Gog Magog, (Ezekiel 38) and all Israel can do against the combined millions of man armies from all these nations and all their weapons. The few that might want to help Israel won't because they will be afraid that they will be attacked too. When they get to the mountains of Israel and before Israel gets to the point of having to use all her nukes to try and make these armies back off, GOD will step into the history of the world and in a very clearly Devine way will destroy all these armies and their home lands. Only one in six will escape and they will have no place to go. Israel will spent if memory serves the next nine months burying the dead and the next seven years burning the weapons or war. Sometime shortly after this the AC will make a covent for seven years with Israel and the tribulation will be here.

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[Miggy]

I almost have the "William Beason speech" memorized. :lol2