Is the Psalm 83 War Next on the Prophetic Timeline?

[Shonsu]

:hat I actually posted a question on this topic which has since migrated to the main sticky thread.

If this is the case, it doesn't mean that the rapture is not imminent however. It just means that there will be a period of time between the rapture event and the tribulation period.

Should the church be present on earth for the Gog Magog war, it will be one major witnessing tool that we can point out via scriptural reference, in hindsight, to unbelievers.


Exactly.

[overcomer]

I got "The Bible Knowledge Commentary - Old Testament" and "The Bible Knowledge Commentary - New Testament" by Walvoord, Zuck, and Cook - for by birthday on the 21st.

It says this about Ezekiel 38:4-5;39:9......."Should the weapons of war - horses, swords, shields...bows...arrows...clubs...and spears - be understood literally or do they refer figuratively to modern-day weaponry? The text itself can allow for both interpretations, but the normal meaning of the words would lead one to see Ezekiel referring to literal horses, etc. With the other worldwide catastrophies evident during the first three and one-half years of Daniel's 70th week (Matt. 24:6-8;Rev.6), a reversion to more primitive methods of warfare might become possible."

What do you think about the quote?
Where do you place the Gog/Magog Attack on the time-line of things?
Where do you place the demise of Damascus on any time-line?

[Ace Mineral]

No doubt they reported what they saw, but I think it will manifest itself with the proper tools of the time that the prophecy comes to pass.

[OtherSideOfTheBoat]

I cannot say for sure but I suspect the figurative or symbolic interpretation applies to the weapons of Ezekiel 38. As far as the timing, I believe Psalm 83 will include the destruction of Gaza per Isaiah 14:28-32, the end of Damascus per Isaiah 17:1 plus trouble for the rest of the group in Psalm 83. They are not found listed in Ezekiel 38:2-6 from what I see. I am inclined to think that the death of Gaza will lead to the destruction of Damascus. One result from Damascus will be Isaiah 17:12-13; a rushing of many nations. What is this rushing? My guess is that it is the nations coming together in Ezekiel 38 to fight against Israel in order to have peace. God will have the victory and Israel will burn the weapons for seven years as noted in Ezekiel 39:9.

[Doug Drake]

There are very good Bible instructors and students of the Word who are convinced of their interpretations of how this will come about.
That's ok as long as we all know that God knows for sure and we don't.
Some believe Gog Magog must be right before rapture, some 3 1/2 years before rapture and some believe that it is the same as Amegeddon.
There really are several puzzling pieces to this prophecy that cause problems for those who set a time frame for fulfillment for this.
Taking the seven years of burning weapons, it has been concluded by most that there is no way they could enter into the Mellinial period and still be burning weapons.
I won't take a side on it here, but my question is...
What do we know about the Mellinial period that makes us so sure there can't be any burning of weapons during that time?

[Gideon300]

If anybody takes a stab at this, will you also try to explain the 'bow and arrow, and spear' thing?

You will find this interesting:

Israel calls their new missile defensive system the Arrow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_%28missile%29

Spear in Israeli Military: INS Spear - Corvette class attack ship, Edge of Spear F-16 fighter squadron.

Something else interesting: The Israeli made battle tank known as the Merkava translates to English as Chariot.

[Gideon300]

Anyone ever heard of the Cossacks? These were Russian horse-backed warriors that were fiercely loyal to the Russian Tsars. When the Bolsheviks took over in 1918 they outlawed the Cossacks as a military unit and oppressed them. In 2005 Putin reinstated the Cossacks as a Military unit of the Russian Army. Russians have historically used horses in major conflicts. Russians on horseback took out bogged-down Nazi tank units.

The Cossacks on horses might very well be what Ezekiel saw in his vision.

Here is the story of Putin reinstating the Cossacks:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6937562.stm

This is very interesting what one of their elders said:


When I asked him if he could suggest any candidates, he told me there was "only one". President Vladimir Putin, he said, had proved himself as a potential Tsar, by bringing order and the start of Russia's long-awaited national revival.

[tweety]

I got "The Bible Knowledge Commentary - Old Testament" and "The Bible Knowledge Commentary - New Testament" by Walvoord, Zuck, and Cook - for by birthday on the 21st.

It says this about Ezekiel 38:4-5;39:9......."Should the weapons of war - horses, swords, shields...bows...arrows...clubs...and spears - be understood literally or do they refer figuratively to modern-day weaponry? The text itself can allow for both interpretations, but the normal meaning of the words would lead one to see Ezekiel referring to literal horses, etc. With the other worldwide catastrophies evident during the first three and one-half years of Daniel's 70th week (Matt. 24:6-8;Rev.6), a reversion to more primitive methods of warfare might become possible."

What do you think about the quote?
Where do you place the Gog/Magog Attack on the time-line of things?
Where do you place the demise of Damascus on any time-line?

Nice birthday present, I have those commentaries which are among best and reasonably price.

I disagree with worldwide catastrophes during the first three and on-half years as the reason for shortages in modern day weaponry. Due to the “great hoard” attacking Israel, they will not have enough modern weapons to go around and a reversion to more primitive methods of warfare will be necessary.

Gog’s attack is right after the rapture, it coincides with the fall of Babylon.

Destruction of Damascus by God is at the end of Tribulation.

[treasures]

It seems to me that Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17 are not separate prophetic events at all, but rather Psalm 83 is a prayer and Isaiah 17 is God's prophetic answer to that very prayer. Can anyone help me to confirm this, or correct the misunderstanding, if possible? (Or if there has been a thread on this topic, please direct me to it). Thanks!

[Praying]

This seems to be the million dollar question, that no one but God truly has an answer to. It has been discussed in other areas of the board, and many of us have been contemplating this, and searching the scriptures for greater understanding.
Some of us believe that they are two separate events, one leading to the other, while some of us believe it is basically one event.
I personally have come to the conclusion that there are some things none of us will truly understand until God reveals this to us, and more than likely when all of this happens, we will not even be here. In the event we are here for this, more than likely, this will lead to the peace treaty with Israel, and we are not supposed to be here for that signing.

:pray:pray:pray Ready to go home!