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treasures
June 8th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I've somehow missed discussion about that and was wondering if there possibly was something to this thought of mine or if it was so far left field that it hadn't been considered. I'll try a more in-depth search now. Thanks again! :hug

Praying
June 8th, 2011, 12:48 PM
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I've somehow missed discussion about that and was wondering if there possibly was something to this thought of mine or if it was so far left field that it hadn't been considered. I'll try a more in-depth search now. Thanks again! :hug

No problem. Actually, it may take a while to find the discussions, because I am not sure they are clearly marked or titled as such. I'll look some more too, and see if I can find them. If so, I'll post here.

:pray:pray:pray Ready to go home!

Praying
June 8th, 2011, 12:52 PM
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?161840-The-Tribulaton-and-the-REI-SCENARIO

Here's a link to one of the thread discussions. Like I said, none of us have a clear-cut answer, but here are some we've been pondering.

:pray:pray:pray ready to go home!

treasures
June 8th, 2011, 08:02 PM
http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?161840-The-Tribulaton-and-the-REI-SCENARIO

Here's a link to one of the thread discussions. Like I said, none of us have a clear-cut answer, but here are some we've been pondering.

:pray:pray:pray ready to go home!

Thank you so much! I don't expect an :insight moment (though it is awesome when that happens) but do love to dig into other's insights either way. Very sweet of you to find that for me, I appreciate it! <3

tweety
June 9th, 2011, 01:58 AM
It seems to me that Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17 are not separate prophetic events at all, but rather Psalm 83 is a prayer and Isaiah 17 is God's prophetic answer to that very prayer. Can anyone help me to confirm this, or correct the misunderstanding, if possible? (Or if there has been a thread on this topic, please direct me to it). Thanks!

They are separate prophetic events. The Psalm 83 alliance is a conspiracy now being fulfilled by the “inner ring” of nations listed. Their attempt to eliminate Israel will fail requiring them to go with plan B, which is to set up a false peace with Israel while at the same time mobilizing the “outer ring” of nations for Gog’s invasion. They will take possession of Israel and the Jews taken “as prisoners to all the nations” Lk 21:24.

Isaiah 17 is God’s prophetic answer to David’s prayer for revenge, it will take place when Christ returns in great power and glory and the end of Jacob’s trouble. Massive earthquakes in the Middle East when Christ returns will destroy Damascus and other cities. The city of Aroer, 14 miles east of the Dead Sea, will be deserted and “left to flocks which will lie down, with no one to make them afraid” (17:3). This can only happen during the Millennium after God’s wrath when sheep will be able to lie down next to lions and not be afraid.

The destruction of Damascus is in the Day of the Lord as indicated by “In that day” in verses 4, 7 and 9. Psalm is fulfilled before the Day of Lord begins. Israels enemies will fail the first time; they will succeed the second time.

dbeard4
June 14th, 2011, 02:02 AM
If the Gog and Magog War happens anytime after the anti-christ confirms the peace treaty with Israel (which begins the 7-year Tribulation), then that means Israel will be burning the weapons into the Millenium period.

Does anyone know why God chose seven years to burn the weapons? and what is the significance of burning the weapons through the beginning of the Millenium?

dbeard4
June 14th, 2011, 02:12 AM
They are separate prophetic events. The Psalm 83 alliance is a conspiracy now being fulfilled by the “inner ring” of nations listed. Their attempt to eliminate Israel will fail requiring them to go with plan B, which is to set up a false peace with Israel while at the same time mobilizing the “outer ring” of nations for Gog’s invasion. They will take possession of Israel and the Jews taken “as prisoners to all the nations” Lk 21:24.

Isaiah 17 is God’s prophetic answer to David’s prayer for revenge, it will take place when Christ returns in great power and glory and the end of Jacob’s trouble. Massive earthquakes in the Middle East when Christ returns will destroy Damascus and other cities. The city of Aroer, 14 miles east of the Dead Sea, will be deserted and “left to flocks which will lie down, with no one to make them afraid” (17:3). This can only happen during the Millennium after God’s wrath when sheep will be able to lie down next to lions and not be afraid.

The destruction of Damascus is in the Day of the Lord as indicated by “In that day” in verses 4, 7 and 9. Psalm is fulfilled before the Day of Lord begins. Israels enemies will fail the first time; they will succeed the second time.

Very interesting. I always thought that Isaiah 17:1 referred to a nuclear strike, but your explanation makes more sense. Do you think there's ANY possiblity that Syria could launch a chemical &/or biological attack, which would prompt Israel to nuke Damascus? Just asking... in this scenario, Damascus would fall much earlier. It could even be the "hook" that prompts Russia and Iran to get involved. Thanks for your input :-)

Kevin
June 14th, 2011, 06:38 AM
If the Gog and Magog War happens anytime after the anti-christ confirms the peace treaty with Israel (which begins the 7-year Tribulation), then that means Israel will be burning the weapons into the Millenium period.

I've never understood from Scripture why that is a problem. Won't people who survive the GT still use fossil fuels or even small fires for cooking if nothing else? Help me understand this perspective.

Thanks!

Buzzardhut
June 14th, 2011, 06:52 AM
I've never understood from Scripture why that is a problem. Won't people who survive the GT still use fossil fuels or even small fires for cooking if nothing else? Help me understand this perspective.

Thanks!

Doesn't seem like a problem to me either, there will be pollution and rebuilding in the millennium

tweety
June 14th, 2011, 08:40 AM
Very interesting. I always thought that Isaiah 17:1 referred to a nuclear strike, but your explanation makes more sense. Do you think there's ANY possiblity that Syria could launch a chemical &/or biological attack, which would prompt Israel to nuke Damascus? Just asking... in this scenario, Damascus would fall much earlier. It could even be the "hook" that prompts Russia and Iran to get involved. Thanks for your input :-)

It’s typical of humans to jump on a band wagon not realizing there are no horses pulling the wagon.

If there is a Middle East war this year it could be partial fulfillment of the Psalm 83 conspiracy. I don’t think Syria this time will directly engage Israel, instead they will support Hamas, Hezbollah and the Palestinians into attacking Israel. A chemical or biological attack by Syria is unlikely because they know Israel would retaliate with some of their nuclear bombs. If there is war this year Dasmacus will still exist but I’m not ruling out the use of conventional weapons. My understanding of OT prophecy has Damascus destroyed at the end of Tribulation. Probably what prompts Russia and Iran to start the Day of the Lord is the vacuum created by the rapture, it would be an ideal situation to start that day “suddenly” 1 Thess 5:3