Pauline Dispensationalism

[HeIsEnough]

HeIsEnough,
Thank you! You said everything I have been thinking as I read this thread. I think its easy for people to forget that men did not write the Bible, God did!

HeIsEnough
You know theologians have families to feed. If you keep uncomplicating the gospel, I fear their children may starve.:wave

:nod

Thank you for the encouragement, friends.

[dramama]

I know of Arnold and have read some of his works, I don't know Zola. I know Arnold preaches the law of Messiah, affirmed by our friend Matthew, who sat under his teachings. I don't believe Arnold teaches there are two different gospels, one for the Jew, one for the gentile. Any one who teaches that is in danger of this strong warning given by Paul in Galatians 1:6-10.

I won't comment on the other people you mentioned. I'm sure you can use your wisdom and discernment the Lord gave you. I think it better to tell someone the teaching is heretical, not that they are heretics. We all have some sort of belief thats 'not exactly' correct. It takes throwing out what is not true, even if it causes problems for a specific systematic view. It is the wise thing to do.

I think you are missing what we are saying, we aren't talking heresy here. The Word of God is just that, written by God thru chosen people. We aren't saying anything that isn't in scripture, Paul taught different things that were revealed to him and him alone. Why's that heretical? We are not preaching a false Gospel. :doh

[HeIsEnough]

and Paul was sent to the Gentiles also with the message of Grace.

I believe Paul, with the astounding wisdom the Lord gave him, went to the Jews first with this message. He converted and persuaded many Jews, to the glory of God.

[HeIsEnough]

I think you are missing what we are saying, we aren't talking heresy here. The Word of God is just that, written by God thru chosen people. We aren't saying anything that isn't in scripture, Paul taught different things that were revealed to him and him alone. Why's that heretical? We are not preaching a false Gospel. :doh

dramama,

Posters indeed did bring up a different gospel, a different body. Pauline dispensation addresses these things in that manner. The point being that to add to the gospel like that, and Paul affirmed they taught the same thing, is indeed a heretical teaching. I don't use that word lightly, but we all need to be diligent to keep the gospel crystal clear. These things also have implications for the Jew today, which I bet is indeed also a problem in the church today. Sorry if this offends you in some manner.

If you feel that the early Apostles in Jerusalem taught a different gospel, then speak up, because the scriptures do not affirm that.

[BlessedinHim]

Are Zola Levitt and Arnold Fruchtenbaum teaching heresy?

This below is heresy imo


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http://www.christianinternational.org/

This is plan offensive, they can't bring themselves, to say there are any Jew's, they will call them Israelis, Hebrews, but not Jew's, they think they are the Jew's.
http://www.reformation.org/israel.html

I agree with you here. Here is one thing I found very interesting and something to be wary of: http://www.watch.pair.com/chuck-pierce.html

http://www.globalharvest.org/index.asp?action=chuck

http://www.metroapostolicnetwork.com/Events/New%20Ark.htm

http://www.internationalharvesters.org/chuckpierce.htm

I think that is more than enough to see whether it is heresy or not. as far as the link you gave.

Zola Levitt is dead, he was a messianic Jew. I dont believe he preached heresy. I dont know anything about Arnold Fruchtenbaum.

God knows and we should always be on the lookout for the false prophets and teachers. May God grant us the discernment to know the difference.

[BlessedinHim]

I believe Paul, with the astounding wisdom the Lord gave him, went to the Jews first with this message. He converted and persuaded many Jews, to the glory of God.

I believe I said as much in a previous post. Amen, glory to God. That is why I believe that Peter and Paul had the same message after the cross.

[HeIsEnough]

I believe I said as much in a previous post. Amen, glory to God. That is why I believe that Peter and Paul had the same message after the cross.

:doh

Didn't see it, sorry.

[BlessedinHim]

Now in this dispensation of Grace, there is only one gospel. The gospel of Grace, preached to the Jews first and then the Gentiles. I think that some get confulsed because many Jews still do not believe in Jesus. They are still under the law. At the end of the dispensation of Grace, God will pick up where He left off with the Jews that refused to believe Jesus and the 70th week will have begun. They too will come full circle, but not exactly to the same conclusion that we have because of their disbelief in their Messiah when He first appeard to them.

Scripture teaches that they are blinded in part so the time of the Gentiles can be fulfilled, that is the age of Grace.

[BlessedinHim]

:doh

Didn't see it, sorry.

It is ok, there are a lot of posts here.

[HeIsEnough]

Now in this dispensation of Grace, there is only one gospel. The gospel of Grace, preached to the Jews first and then the Gentiles. I think that some get confulsed because many Jews still do not believe in Jesus. They are still under the law. At the end of the dispensation of Grace, God will pick up where He left off with the Jews that refused to believe Jesus and the 70th week will have begun. They too will come full circle, but not exactly to the same conclusion that we have because of their disbelief in their Messiah when He first appeard to them.

Scripture teaches that they are blinded in part so the time of the Gentiles can be fulfilled, that is the age of Grace.

I was pondering something else today....I hope you haven't mentioned this :heh........I think all previous dispensations had little to go by for the next dispensation. How much are we truly missing? It will be a fantastic dispensation, I do believe.