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HeIsEnough
August 30th, 2007, 12:51 PM
The Jewish message which we don't practice today, Mark10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.
22 And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.
23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! Peter and the early Jewish church practised this message Acts2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart. Why even Peter had to say Acts3:
6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. We practice NONE of these things today if you are a healer my grandma died please come raise her.

This is just plain ole 'bad theology' to somehow make some kind of point.

That Peter and some of the Apostles performed miracles, so the message was different? That is what you are saying. Well, Jesus calmed the storm, I didn't see any of the Apostles do that either! This proves nothing.

Mechaberean
August 30th, 2007, 01:45 PM
Like I said earlier on the physicaol church is still going until 2nd Corinthians, The Corinthians joined hard the synagogue as we see in Act 18:
1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them.
3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.
4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
5 And when Silas and Timotheus were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was Christ.
6 And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean; from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.
7 And he departed thence, and entered into a certain man's house, named Justus, one that worshipped God, whose house joined hard to the synagogue.
8 And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.

Mechaberean
August 30th, 2007, 02:29 PM
It proves that we don't have it in our age and that they walked by sight;signs,wonders,and miracles and faith while we just walk by faith. Jews are the people of God according to the flesh.

Topped 3
August 30th, 2007, 02:55 PM
This is just plain ole 'bad theology' to somehow make some kind of point.

That Peter and some of the Apostles performed miracles, so the message was different? That is what you are saying. Well, Jesus calmed the storm, I didn't see any of the Apostles do that either! This proves nothing.

This theology , as you call it , is what we GENTILES call the Cross of Christ , Grace , Mercy , a pardon. You are embracing Emergent theology , or trying to lay claim to the same promises and covenant inheritances of True Abraham descendants. I think IMO this Mindset of yours smacks of Penticostal-Lutheran-Catholic type Post-millenial A-millenialism .

HeIsEnough
August 30th, 2007, 03:09 PM
This theology , as you call it , is what we GENTILES call the Cross of Christ , Grace , Mercy , a pardon.

Sorry sir, the Jews called it the cross of Christ before any Gentiles did.


You are embracing Emergent theology , or trying to lay claim to the same promises and covenant inheritances of True Abraham descendants. I think IMO this Mindset of yours smacks of Penticostal-Lutheran-Catholic type Post-millenial A-millenialism .

Bah. You need to identify a couple more catch phrases in there. :lol2

HeIsEnough
August 30th, 2007, 03:14 PM
It proves that we don't have it in our age and that they walked by sight;signs,wonders,and miracles and faith while we just walk by faith. Jews are the people of God according to the flesh.

Then what have we today? We have Messianic Jews, who do not subscribe to a now supposedly inactive gospel message, they embrace the one that we do, as Christ said it was for them as well. Salvation has always been by faith, as the book of Hebrews relates, as Peter himself testifies in Acts 15 when the whole council in Jerusalem met.

If your claim is that any Jew today must live under 'Peter's gospel', then I would at least state that you are consistent. Wrong, but consistent.

HeIsEnough
August 30th, 2007, 03:17 PM
I think twenty five pages is enough!

Mechaberean
August 30th, 2007, 03:35 PM
reread thge posts you arent reading them and there youll find your answer of how i believe.....look around blindness and please read em all before coming back on THANK you

Mechaberean
August 30th, 2007, 03:36 PM
I put blindness in part has happend to Israel so yes they are among us belieiving what we believe and the other stuff is on hold i said.

Topped 3
August 30th, 2007, 03:45 PM
I think twenty five pages is enough!
This hasn,t been for your benefit , if you're so set on your own opinion . True Pauline Doctrine is for GENUINE struggling Christians wanting and needing HOPE and LIBERTY from oppressive LEAGALIST rule of the law MOSAIC Levitical adherance. IMO an Exaustive KJV Concordance is invaluable in raising red flags on proper NT Pauline Dispensational TRUTH . In the Concordance , look up FAITH . The faith verses in Paul's Epistles differ from Hebrews and James faith verses . How ? BY FAITH in Hebrews that justified Abraham and Rahaab the Harlot was Faith then works(believing then doing).We(Pauline Gentiles) are justified by Grace thru Faith OF OF OF Christ(Sealed , Redeemed)not just sins remitted.
Hebrews ;James is early Acts/Tribulation Era Doctrine...Not applicable to us....This has been the SOLE perpose of this Thread started by BleessedinHim...to teach this to those who need deliverance from Leagalism and Bondage...to obtain True NT liberty in Christ and TRUTH.