Pauline Dispensationalism

[DJHere]

My comments on your post are underlined.



Peter in Acts as you quoted continued to preach
to Israel that Jesus was indeed the Christ, even after His death on the cross. Whereas Paul's Gospel he was preaching when he went into the synagogues was first that Christ was the Messiah (as Peter preached) but that He came to die for all men's sins. This made Paul's and Peter's Gospels different. This lasted until God sovereignly concluded unbelieving Israel among the Gentiles and then there was but one Gospel, that of Grace to the Gentiles. (Read Romans 11 to understand this.)
What did Peter preach in Acts 10:

43All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name."

Who was this message preached to? Gentiles!

Peter and Paul preached the same gospel message as Paul testified they did when he wrote:

11Whether, then, it was I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed. (1 Cor. 15)

[Mechaberean]

Mark16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved

[Mechaberean]

Acts10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?-----------The above people are Gentiles that have received The Holy Spirit without water baptism,the Jews are astonished at Gentiles receiving the Spirit, never happened before thats why they are astonished.

[Mechaberean]

John7:38and 39 written to a Samaritan woman,1Cor.12:13 doesn't say they got the Spirit teh same way,Ephesians written to Gentiles Ephesians aren't Jews the yare a completely different city,and nation.

[DJHere]

When I write "Gentile Church" it denotes both Jews and Gentiles that believed the Gospel Paul preached, and he is described in scripture as "the apostle to the Gentiles." (Rom. 11:13)
Was Paul the only one who preached the gospel? NO! (see Act chapters 2,4,5, 8,10; 1 Cor. 1:12; 1 Cor. 15:1-11)

Was he the only one commissioned to preach the gospel? NO! (see Matt. 28:18-20; Acts 1:8)

Did Paul only preach to Gentiles? NO! (see Acts 13 and 28)

Did Peter only preach to Jews? NO! (see Acts 10; 1 Cor. 1:12; 1 Peter 1:1-2)

Does God's word define the church as being a Gentile church? NO!

How is the church defined in Scripture? As the body of Christ:

22And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way. (Eph. 1)

13For we were all baptized by one Spirit into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. (1 Cor. 12)

27Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. 28And in the church God has appointed first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then workers of miracles, also those having gifts of healing, those able to help others, those with gifts of administration, and those speaking in different kinds of tongues. (1 Cor. 12)

A body made up of who? Both Jew and Gentile.

What does Ephesians 3 teach was the great mystery revealed by the Holy Spirit to the apostles and prophets:

2Surely you have heard about the administration of God's grace that was given to me for you, 3that is, the mystery made known to me by revelation, as I have already written briefly. 4In reading this, then, you will be able to understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, 5which was not made known to men in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God's holy apostles and prophets. 6This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

Members of one body which is called and identified as what? The church! The church not the Gentile church.

[Topped 3]

I'll commend you on your persistence,DJHere,but I think BIH started this thread to explore Dispensationalism,but you seem determined to come out on top.I would only ask that anyone who has followed this entire thread to keep studying all/any theology thoroughly before taking a final stand ,and let the Bible be the Authority,not our pet theories.Farewell ! I'm off to learn(and keep an open mind,attentive to the truth,and the Holy Ghost).

[BlessedinHim]

That is ok Topped3, this is part of the Pauline dispensationalism. As GT pointed out, this theology says there are 2 gospels, I dont agree with that, cant see 2 gospels. I see one church and one gospel, and then Israel still to deal with. In fact, I believe He is already to begin dealing with them, at least Israel is back on the table again. Jesus is returning soon.

[Beth O]

That is ok Topped3, this is part of the Pauline dispensationalism. As GT pointed out, this theology says there are 2 gospels, I dont agree with that, cant see 2 gospels. I see one church and one gospel, and then Israel still to deal with. In fact, I believe He is already to begin dealing with them, at least Israel is back on the table again. Jesus is returning soon.

I have been studying this as well. I agree BIH. I only see one gospel, only one way to be saved and that's faith in Jesus Christ. All those in Christ are the body of Christ. and yes, there is a plan for Israel.

Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Romans 11:25-26 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

[Mechaberean]

I have been studying this as well. I agree BIH. I only see one gospel, only one way to be saved and that's faith in Jesus Christ. All those in Christ are the body of Christ. and yes, there is a plan for Israel.
-----------Trouble is people were saved in teh Old Testament from Hell to Abraham's bosom which isn't a parable; parables are non specific people " a certain Samaritan etc.." Before the cross no one went to Heaven but two exceptions Enoch and Elijah. Jesus is what you call the first man after the cross to go and He took captivity captive those kept in Abrams bosom were freed by the gospel(Jesus himself preached it to them) their sin only covered up until the cross were gone and they were able to enter God's presence.

[Mechaberean]

Spiritually there is neither male nor female Jew nor Gentile but physically nope my wife is still female after being saved. God doesnt believe in homosexulaity. The Jews are the people of God according to the flesh God says, a chosen nation out of all nations.