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Mechaberean
September 26th, 2007, 05:29 PM
there are two days of the Lord one He comes in the clouds to rapture His own,two He comes back to take the world back. Yes Israel saw His day they knew He would free them from teh gentile rulers and the Kingdom again would return to Israel rule through the ir Jedwsih seed of David Jesus when He sists on Davids throne, much of teh Old Testament you will find is based on the millenium prophecies to come, and not on teh cross the cross is well hid in frist person quotes. And I am sorry they had no sins covered unless they did works of anaiml sacrafice it covered their sin until they could come to the cross.
Mechaberean
September 26th, 2007, 05:31 PM
How about nobody is saved except they become a Jew in the tribulation or are a sheep nation(WORKS of blessing Israel)
LaMontre
September 26th, 2007, 06:14 PM
You are saying WE are out of context ?You are referencing passages from james and Hebrews that are Written to Proselyte s and Jews,in DIRECT contradiction to Pau'l Gospel;
That's your opinion, thus far unsupported by scripture. No matter what ethnicity they were written to, they were written to the church. To dispute that fact would be futile indeed.
it says "to the Hebrews",
It is written to the church nevertheless.
and paul didn't write hebrews,check the Writers style,not at all like Paul's;
Another opinion.
you have been rapid firing verses at us completely out of context and off topic
I am sure you'd like to believe that, but each scripture has been right on topic, and as yet unanswered by you.
,like I said before,Dispensationalism,what this thread is about,is only detectable in the subtle wording of the KJ AV,and you have to pay CLOSE attention to catch it.
That statement sounds a little cultic:
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
Once you see it,it's like an entirely different Bible,and opens up like never before,And fits together without conflicting messages.To not rightly divide is to preach confusion,duplicity and CONTRADICTION
! :doh
Rightly dividing is a subjective matter, defined in various ways by various commentators.
LaMontre
September 26th, 2007, 06:15 PM
How about nobody is saved except they become a Jew in the tribulation or are a sheep nation(WORKS of blessing Israel)
You mean, "how about an erroneous interpretation"?
:ohno
Mechaberean
September 26th, 2007, 06:58 PM
How about there are more than one salvation in teh bible ever think of that?
Mechaberean
September 26th, 2007, 07:02 PM
Those that need the tree of life in Revelations do not have eternal life but are considered the church.Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever.In Revealtions this is also the church bhut its the tribulation church that doesn't have eternal life obviously Revealtion 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.
4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Mechaberean
September 26th, 2007, 07:06 PM
God's word deals with more than just a Spiritual salvation
Mechaberean
September 26th, 2007, 07:08 PM
1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. What tribe are you from?
Mechaberean
September 26th, 2007, 07:42 PM
Matthew 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.--------Its seems clear to me here and other places that there is more than one way to avoid Hell but not in our age. Here is another Matthew 19: 29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
And another Mark 10:17 And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
20 And he answered and said unto him, Master, all these have I observed from my youth.
21 Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.---------But to Galations and all Gentiles while the Jews are not the focus there should be one gospel preached to them because circumscion availeth them nothing. The Jews are not the main focus God still is working with them but individual salavtion is the focus in our age. Then after us nations are preached to and a nation(Jews) are the focus, while individual stuuf is minor.
Mechaberean
September 26th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Jesus himself said they needed to take a stand he is the Messiah and they would be kicked out of the Synagogue because the Jews are enemies for the gospels sake. They won't stand for it,right now, and just before our age.
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