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Mechaberean
October 4th, 2007, 12:55 AM
Well in the particular passage Paul is standing in the synagogue,to get there you had to be a Jew or Proselyte. I believe he went to the synagogue in early thirteen,then the jews,then the proslytes,and then right in 14 we find him going definately to gentiles worshipping false Gods, the Jews come to try and take control but aren't in control.

Topped 3
October 4th, 2007, 10:14 AM
Well in the particular passage Paul is standing in the synagogue,to get there you had to be a Jew or Proselyte. I believe he went to the synagogue in early thirteen,then the jews,then the proslytes,and then right in 14 we find him going definately to gentiles worshipping false Gods, the Jews come to try and take control but aren't in control. I think the Mod doesn't sanction discussion of the particulars of the Pauline thing. It has gotten a little dodgey. Thank you all for your participation. Bowing out now. :thumb

HeIsEnough
October 4th, 2007, 12:26 PM
I think the Mod doesn't sanction discussion of the particulars of the Pauline thing. It has gotten a little dodgey. Thank you all for your participation. Bowing out now. :thumb

This Mod doesn't sanction attempts to link any view but your own to a works/law mixing of the gospel, as if it is only Paulinists who have a "handle" on the message of grace. I hear that enough from reformed christians, and I sense it from Paulinists.

It shows a weakness on your part to not deal with what is actually stated by posters, instead of your assumptions of what you believe others believe constitutes the gospel of Jesus Christ.

No flesh was ever justified in God's sight by works of the law, and Abraham was credited righteousness by the faith and belief he displayed. Being a lawbreaker, like David for example, didn't automatically exclude a Jew from salvation, just as it will not exclude you. In neither case, yours or David's, does God say or feel it is ok for you to break His law.

Mechaberean
October 4th, 2007, 07:57 PM
well David was an exception no one else will get sure mercies of David.

Mechaberean
October 4th, 2007, 07:58 PM
if they didn't sacrafice animals no covered sin.

HeIsEnough
October 5th, 2007, 06:26 AM
well David was an exception no one else will get sure mercies of David.

Oh I don't know about that friend, many in Israel received the mercies of the Lord. Even wicked King Ahab received mercy when he repented before the Lord. Unless I am not understanding you correctly.

HeIsEnough
October 5th, 2007, 06:29 AM
if they didn't sacrafice animals no covered sin.

And once the sacrifice of Christ was made, 50 days before the day of Pentecost and the coming of the Spirit, Peter and no other Jew needed to sacrifice again. So what is your point in regards to a different ministration of the early flock as compared to the later flock?

Mechaberean
October 5th, 2007, 10:56 AM
David was to be stoned no animal sacrafice could cover adultery.Leviticus20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.(no sacrafice available to cover it). But David prayed God and God gave him sure mercies of David.

Mechaberean
October 5th, 2007, 11:03 AM
the earlier flock met were they did animal sacrafices and some believe they will in the Trib. and millenium. But it takes on a different meaning, no they had water baptism according to God's word in place of animal sacrafice this brought remission of sins. But remission as any cancer patient knows could come back to infect and kill, I don't believe remission and redemption are the same or Jesus didn't need to die they had remission before the cross at repentance and John's baptism.Mark1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. But Jesus in the garden I believe looked past,present and future and said father if there is another way take this cup from me, but there was no other way he knew about the repentance at water baptism for remission of sins,and everything.

HeIsEnough
October 5th, 2007, 11:16 AM
David was to be stoned no animal sacrafice could cover adultery.Leviticus20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.(no sacrafice available to cover it). But David prayed God and God gave him sure mercies of David.

Which illustrates the point that mercy triumphs over judgment, which was not just for David...unless you are specifically claiming that...