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Mechaberean
October 9th, 2007, 02:01 AM
Ignoring me is the only option you have since you obviously have no biblical defense of your doctrine.
--------if you tasted and seen that the Lord is Good and should FALL away its impossible to renew you because you crucify the Lord afresh.(hebrews)yep heres my ignoring you (lol)
Mechaberean
October 9th, 2007, 02:03 AM
Rev.3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.If you dont overcome in the trib. church you are written out of a book you once were in. Me ignoring you again(lol)
Mechaberean
October 9th, 2007, 02:11 AM
Romans11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
-ignoring ya
Mechaberean
October 9th, 2007, 02:13 AM
well back it up please with scripture
---------oh okay I see it, thank you
LaMontre
October 9th, 2007, 03:18 AM
----------which day His second coming or first? His second as a lion and a king, thats what Israel saw and looked forward too, as i said many bible teachers will tell ya they saw the lion not the lamb the king not the suffering saviour.
And so you claim that "his day" ended at the cross?
I am sure Paul would have disagreed.
LaMontre
October 9th, 2007, 03:23 AM
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
:snap
Mechaberean
October 9th, 2007, 03:43 AM
And so you claim that "his day" ended at the cross?
I am sure Paul would have disagreed.--------um no he has two days I said one as a lion,one as a sacrificial lamb.
Mechaberean
October 9th, 2007, 03:45 AM
I said and I quote alot of bible teachers will tell ya they saw the physical reign of King Jesus but didn't understand His frist coming as Saviour to die on the cross
Mechaberean
October 9th, 2007, 03:47 AM
and most Old Testament prophecy yep was his reigning on David's throne in jerusalem, what the Jewish nation awaited,a physical king.
Mechaberean
October 9th, 2007, 03:56 AM
I asked a question about whether there were 2 gospels or not, and I agree with this answer. from www.gotquestions.org
the Gospel is the same
preached by all the apostles and all the early Christians. There is no
difference between the writings of Paul and the writings of Peter. In
fact, notice Peter's words in his last letter:
2 Peter 3:15-16 "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just
as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom
given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of
these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to
understand,------------(yeah sure taught the same stuff peter cant understand it)--------- which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as
they do the other Scriptures."
Peter here affirms Paul's Gospel. There is nothing here to suggest
that Paul and Peter would disagree, even though we know that Paul did
confront Peter about his dealings with the Gentiles (Galatians 2). Paul
was converted through the same Gospel that Peter preached, Stephen
preached, and other key early Christian members.
What is the Gospel? A quick summary is found in 1 Cor. 15:1-6. Please
look at this short outline for more details:
1. Greek - Is derived from the Greek word euaggelion, which is where we
get the word "evangel"
a. Thayer - "The proclamation of the grace of God manifest and pledged
in Christ
b. Mark 1:1 - The opening line uses the word for Gospel, and therefore
shows that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah and the Son of God
i. Jewish Messiah
1. Genesis 12:3 - Fulfills the promises of Abraham.
2. Genesis 49:10 - The Messiah would come from the line of Judah, and
Jesus did.
3. From the lineage of David (2 Sam. 7:14; Jeremiah 23:5)
ii. Son of God
1. Psalm 110:1 - Most often used verse by the New Testament writers to
communicate the Sonship of Jesus
2. Matthew 22:42-45 - Jesus quoted Psalm 110 to refute the Pharisees
about the authority by which he did his work.
3. Acts 2:34-36 - Peter preached on Pentecost that Jesus is both "Lord
and Christ."---------wrong he said you crucified jesus they were convicted what should we do? repent and be water baptised and then receive the Spirit.No sonship just obedience is teh main point----------
2. Resurrection - The resurrection is mentioned 19 times in the book of
Acts (1:22, 2:24, 31-32, 3:26, 4:2, 10, 33, 5:30, 10:40, 13:22, 30-37,
17:18, 32, 23:6, 26:23).---------and the focus is on the death you killed hHim now repent and be baptised----------
a. Acts 2:32-38 - The fact of the bodily resurrection was the reason
that Paul told the hearers to repent.
b. 1 Cor. 15:1-4 - The Gospel includes the death, burial, AND
resurrection of Jesus Christ.
c. 1 Cor. 15:14, 17 - Our faith is worthless / in vain, our preaching
is futile, and we are still in our sins if the resurrection is not true.
d. Romans 10:9 - Jesus as Lord and His resurrection are both parts of
the Gospel message.
e. Acts 17:32 - People sneered at Paul's resurrection of the Gospel,
but it did not invalidate message, for the cross and its message
foolishness to those who are perishing (1 Cor. 1:18).
3. Christ's Substitutionary Death - Jesus had no sin (1 Peter 2:22; 1
John 3:5; 2 Cor. 5:21; Hebrews 4:15, etc.) and thus could be a perfect
sacrifice to satisfy God the Father.
a. 1 Peter 3:18 - Jesus died for our sins even we didn't deserve
ANYTHING!
b. The penalty of sin is physical and spiritual death (Romans 6:23) and
separation away from God forever (2 Thess. 1:9; Acts 17:30-31).
c. Justification - We are made righteous in the sight of God by our
faith, not our works (Romans 5:1-9; Eph. 2:8-9).
d. The wrath and the love of God must be simultaneous in the Gospel
message-God is equally both (John 3:16-20, 36; Romans 1:18-20).
----------Yeah but Jesus will reign on David's throne the Jewish nation look for it over anything its promised to them His throne will last forever"wilt thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?just focus on the kingdom of God its not for you to know the times and seasons----------
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