Tniv

[SuzyQ]

HAS ANYONE HEARD of Todays new international version. My Mom's church is starting a study tomorrow through May using this the series is called Epic.

Any insight will be welcome.

[Anddra]

From wiki...

Supporters and Critics (of the TNIV)

Denominations supportive of the TNIV include the Christian Reformed Church (CRC), which officially endorsed the TNIV as an acceptable translation for use, the Evangelical Covenant Church and the Free Methodist Church of North America. Scholars from the Free Methodist Church of North America had a varied response from it "constitutes no threat" to "most accurate ever".

Evangelical leaders supportive of the TNIV include: Ronald F. Youngblood, Herbert M. Wolf, Mark L. Strauss, Tremper Longman III, Alan Johnson, Dennis Okholm, Gilbert Bilezikian, Paul E. Koptak, Linda Belleville, John Ortberg, Robert C. Andringa, John Armstrong, Adam Hamilton, John Stek, Emeritus Bates, Donald H. Madvig, Kenneth L. Barker, Gordon Fee, Richard T. France, Karen H. Jobes, Walter Liefeld, Douglas Moo, Martin J. Selman, Rob Bell, Bruce K. Waltke, Craig Blomberg, Darrell Bock, Don Carson, Jim Cymbala, Peter Furler, Bill Hybels, Tremper Longman, Erwin McManus, Ben Patterson, Ben Witherington III, Terry C. Muck and others.

Authors supportive of the TNIV include: Lee Strobel, author of The Case for Christ; John R. W. Stott; Philip Yancey; Rob Lacey, author of The Word on the Street; Diane Komp, M.D., author of A Window to Heaven; Dan Kimball, author of The Emerging Church and Emerging Worship; Terri Blackstock; Ken Davis and Scott Evans.

In June, 2002, over 100 evangelical leaders signed a 'Statement of Concern' opposing the TNIV. The Presbyterian Church in America and the Southern Baptist Convention passed resolutions opposing the TNIV and other inclusive language translations.

Evangelical scholars and pastoral leaders critical of the TNIV include: J. I. Packer, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Wayne Grudem, Mary Kassian, D. James Kennedy, Josh McDowell, Albert Mohler, John Piper, Dennis Rainey, Pat Robertson, R.C. Sproul, Joni Eareckson Tada and others.

Read full article... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today%27s_New_International_Version#TNIV_Differenc es)

Personally, I would be wary of any translation that sets out to use gender inclusive language. It means that there is an agenda there before you even start the translation process.

[cre8ionscryer]

Actually, the TNIV is made by the same people who make the NIV and reads amost exactly the same. The main difference is that where the bible generally says "men" but is supposed to be referring to all people, they change it to be inclusive. If the particular story of the bible (for example, the story when Jesus feeds people with loaves and fish) refers to a specific number of men, it still says men.

[Sing4Him]

I agree with Anddra on this.:nod

[NowAlive]

I was listening to a sermon by John MacArthur from the Grace to You website about attacks on the Bible. He mentioned the TNIV translation. Here is what he said:

There's a fourth attack that I would just mention to you, just to give you some idea of the landscape...the attack that comes from the culture. From the critics, from t he cults, from the Charismatics, from the culture. We live in a day when culture is telling the church what the Bible will be allowed to say. A great illustration of this is the publication of the TNIV, Zondervan Publishing Company produces a Bible called the TNIV, the TNIV is distinguished by its deference to the Feminist Movement. It has altered the Word of God, changed the Word of God to make it compatible to the contemporary Feminist Egalitarian Movement and that is not the only one that has done that, there are others that have done it as well. The Word of God is not ever to be used in such a way as to accommodate a cultural perception.

The full transcript is here: http://www.gty.org/Resources/Transcripts/90-320