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[Sing4Him]

RAVI ZACHARIAS ANSWERS “CAN A PERSON LIVE A SINCERE CHRISTIAN LIFE AS A HOMOSEXUAL?”

By Ken Silva pastor-teacher on Sep 18, 2008 in Current Issues, Henri Nouwen
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Apprising Ministries finds it interesting to note that at above at 6:05 into the above clip noted Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias emphatically states: “One of the greatest saints of recent memory was Henri Nouwen.”

But the question then becomes: Do “great saints” really teach universalism as did this apostate Roman Catholic Priest. Nouwen wrote:

Today I personally believe that Jesus came to open the door to God’s house, all human beings can walk through that door, whether they know about Jesus or not. Today I see it as my call to help every person claim his or her way to God. (Sabbatical Journey, 51)

Nouwen also taught that God is in all human beings, which is the classic fantasy of all mystics:

Still, when we remain faithful to our discipline [of Contemplative/Centering Prayer], even if it is only ten minutes a day, we gradually come to see — by the candlelight of our prayers — that there is a space within us where God dwells and where we are invited to dwell with God…

One of the discoveries we make in [meditative] prayer is that the closer we come to God, the closer we come to all our brothers and sisters in the human family. God is not a private God. The God who dwells in our inner sanctuary is also the God who dwells in the inner sanctuary of each human being. (Henri Nouwen, Here and Now, 24, 25)

For a Biblical refutation of this patently false teaching with its inherent denial of the one of the effects of the Fall we refer you to Understanding the New Spirituality: God Indwells Mankind. --->http://apprising.org/2008/08/understanding-the-new-spirituality-god-indwells-mankind-2/

http://apprising.org/

[Sing4Him]

Ravi on Buddhist Sympathizer “One of the Greatest Saints of Recent Memory”
Sep 18

In the post below, don’t miss the video clip posted by Ravi Zacharias who talks of homosexuality and the Christian. At 6:05 he calls Henri Nouwen “one of the greatest saints of recent memory.” The only problem is that Henri Nouwen was an eastern mystic who endorsed the work of Hindus and who believed that all paths lead to God. In this article by Ray Yungen, you can read further what Ravi’s “saint” really believed about salvation, mantra meditation and the rest. Does any of this matter, fellow believers? Does it matter if I believe all paths lead to God if Ravi Zacharais, supposed premier Christian apologist at whose name evangelicals will nearly genuflect? I say it does matter, and it’s time to point out that the apologetic emperor in some cases is without biblical clothing. It’s time to stop the idolatry of talented men, and start being Bereans in the church once again.

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/apologetics/ravi-on-buddhist-sympathizer-one-of-the-greatest-saints-in-recent-memory/

[Berean Girl]

There will still be some to refuse to believe that Ravi has issues....

That's why I dont listen to him..........

:ohno

[Sing4Him]

Spirituality and Spiritual Disciplines

Book titles range from trite to profound, creative to old hat. One title that intrigues is Richard Foster's contemporary classic Celebration of Discipline. What is one to make of such a strange title? As a child I certainly would have never celebrated discipline –who celebrates spankings?

To get at Foster's intention with such a strange title consider an alternate conception of discipline: the word "Christian" originally meant disciple of Christ. "Discipline" comes from the word "disciple." The disciplines are the activities that the disciple engages in, that the disciple does, to follow her Master. The Christian Disciplines, then, are the things that we do to aid us in following after Christ. Prayer, study of the Word, meditation, fasting, these are the inward spiritual disciplines; the ones that allow the work of the Spirit to take deep root in the soul and change the believer.

Many have languished spiritually under the delusion that since there is nothing that we can do to be justified before God, there is also nothing we can do to be sanctified, or made righteous. This is a falsehood. Salvation is a completely unmerited gift of God given to us through faith. But that does not mean that we have no role in our becoming sanctified. God does not wave a magic wand and make us completely sanctified at the point of salvation. Rather, God calls us to pursue Him, and promises to transform us as we do so. That is what the Spiritual Disciplines are. They are our pursuit of God, so that He can change us. As Richard Foster says, "[The Spiritual] Disciplines allow us to place ourselves before God so that he can transform us." We do not make ourselves righteous by reading the Bible or fasting or meditation. Rather, as we commit to seeking God, and expectantly seeking Him in these disciplines, He changes us. The disciplines are God's garage in which He works on us.

Twenty centuries of Christian saints testify to the effectiveness and necessity of the disciplines for the spiritually powerful life. The Bible preaches them, and the lives of saints testify to the power of this teaching. :tsk:tsk
A Christian without the steady diet of the graces found in the spiritual disciplines will most likely be a spiritual anorexic, for all the great truths of the faith cannot be deeply known without deeply engaging them with the disciplines.

The deepness of our faith, the deepness of God, awaits you. Earnestly pursue Him through these disciplines and become spiritually nourished.
Author: RZIM

http://www.rzim.org/GlobalElements/GFV/tabid/449/ArticleID/9354/CBModuleId/1133/Default.aspx


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[Sing4Him]

On his website--

Henri Nouwen:
http://www.rzim.org/SiteSearch/Results.aspx?xsq=nouwen

Merton:
http://www.rzim.org/SiteSearch/Results.aspx?xsq=merton

Dallas Willard:
http://www.rzim.org/SiteSearch/Results.aspx?xsq=Dallas+Willard

[susanb]

Question:
Is it possible for a man or a woman to live a sincere Christian life as a homosexual?

Answer:
...it's a very sincere question; it's a very tough one!

Ravi is supposed to be an apologist. Why is this question "tough"?

He says: "We renounce our dispositions" [homosexual inclinations]?? Hello!? It's called SIN! Call it what it is.

Where is scripture in his answer? Instead he gives a muddled answer using Henri Nouwen's homosexuality, which he supposedly didn't act on... :faint

Ravi is pseudo-apologist... a form of godliness but the power of God is absent.

[His Bride]

This is going to be a heated thread, again. But the information is from his own lips. If that isn't documentation then I don't know what is.

Thanks for the new postings, Sing. Something has come up with a friend of mine while we were watching the Truth Project. Ravi is interviewed many times. My friend is one of those who has difficulty believing that he could have apostate leanings.

When one begins to compromise on one or two unscriptural points it can become a slippery slope. Now that he is compromising on the issue of salvation I see that has happened.