Any thoughts?

[DDog]

Do we have any way to know how long Adam was alive before he sinned? And, do we have any way to know how long Adam and Eve lived together before they sinned?

I've often wondered if they got to spend a lot of time with God, in a sin free state or if it was a very short time. Just imagine what it would have been like, even if it was just a few days. Living in a very close relationship with God and no sin, as we live with so prevalently today.

That would have been quite a story to tell your offspring throughout the hundreds of years of the rest of your lives.

[lyngraphics]

That's an interesting question! I always thought that both Adam and Eve were "young" when they sinned. I don't have anything to back it up, just what I always assumed.

[His Bride]

Just today I was thinking about Adam, Eve, God, and the issue of the consequences of eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. I think that scripture leaves many of the details out. Adam and Eve were told that in the day they eat of it they would die. There had never been death before they sinned, so I am sure that God had spent much time walking with them in the garden in the cool of the day explaining many things to them. Death would had to have been explained for them to comprehend the gravity of sin. It was something I just happened to consider today. Thoughts anyone?

[Doulos]

Do we have any way to know how long Adam was alive before he sinned? And, do we have any way to know how long Adam and Eve lived together before they sinned?

I've often wondered if they got to spend a lot of time with God, in a sin free state or if it was a very short time. Just imagine what it would have been like, even if it was just a few days. Living in a very close relationship with God and no sin, as we live with so prevalently today.

That would have been quite a story to tell your offspring throughout the hundreds of years of the rest of your lives.

I don't think you can pin down exactly when the original sin occurred. But, Adam's first child was born when he was 130 years old and I think it is highly likely that it occurred before then otherwise it would mean that Seth would have been born without a sin nature.

[Sing4Him]

Adam lived 930 yrs. It doesn't make any difference as to how old he was when he sinned.
Because of this sin-->
Romans 5:
Through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin v. 12

One man’s offense many died v. 15

One man’s offense judgment came to all men--> condemnation v. 18

One man’s disobedience --->>sinners v. 19

[freyasfav]

I don't think you can pin down exactly when the original sin occurred. But, Adam's first child was born when he was 130 years old and I think it is highly likely that it occurred before then otherwise it would mean that Seth would have been born without a sin nature.

Perhaps the 130 years didn't begin until the fall made him mortal. I assume he was immortal until that point. Also God returned when Adam & Eve clothed themselves. Seeing as he left for a moment, & a day to God is like a thousand years, it could have been quite a while to us. I've always fancied that it had been several thousand-at least hundreds of years, but that is just my fancy until someone can find & tie Biblical verses giving a relative time frame at least.

[Timothy]

In my mind, even if you knew his age, it would be "irrelevant." If you look at it this way, God's dealings with mankind progress in the dispensations - i.e. from dealing with Adam as a child, to us today, where we are dealt with as sons (lit. "full grown") of God. Adam had the tiniest fraction of knowledge that we do concerning God and his plans. He was mentally and spiritually an infant child. God's methods of dealing with man progressed from the simpliest of instructions (i.e. with Adam, as you would treat a child, under the law, do and don't) to us today (i.e. as adults, under grace).

[Hootmon]

In my mind, even if you knew his age, it would be "irrelevant." If you look at it this way, God's dealings with mankind progress in the dispensations - i.e. from dealing with Adam as a child, to us today, where we are dealt with as sons (lit. "full grown") of God. Adam had the tiniest fraction of knowledge that we do concerning God and his plans. He was mentally and spiritually an infant child. God's methods of dealing with man progressed from the simpliest of instructions (i.e. with Adam, as you would treat a child, under the law, do and don't) to us today (i.e. as adults, under grace).:nod

[antitox]

God knew before He created Adam that Adam would disobey. Really doesn't matter how you compute how long it took.

It was all part of the plan. There was no expectation whatsoever that Adam was going to continue on without disobedience. God was after "a people," not just one guy.

If Adam wasn't going to blow it, then why would God allow the Tree of KG&E in the garden in the first place?

All you have to do is connect the dots. Look what happens at the end. It's a better deal than Adam had in the beginning.

[Doulos]

Perhaps the 130 years didn't begin until the fall made him mortal. I assume he was immortal until that point. Also God returned when Adam & Eve clothed themselves. Seeing as he left for a moment, & a day to God is like a thousand years, it could have been quite a while to us. I've always fancied that it had been several thousand-at least hundreds of years, but that is just my fancy until someone can find & tie Biblical verses giving a relative time frame at least.

If you look at scripture this way things become nonsense. There is no basis to say that Adam's age began when he became mortal. Genesis 5:3 says, "When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son...." Indeed Adam was living even before he sinned. Also, it is dubious to apply the 1000 years as a day passage here as well. We are given Adam's earthly age, we are not being given how old Adam may have seemed to God or some prophetic code.