Daniel 9?

[Elijah'smantle]

:candle How do u interpret the last part of Daniel 9 ?

[Buzzardhut]

:candle How do u interpret the last part of Daniel 9 ?

How do you interpret it?

[Elijah'smantle]

:thinking I don't know , to me it says that seventy :scratch
:idunno

[Elijah'smantle]

:heythere the book of Daniel is some what a little over my head but the way numbers fall is not , that's how I read best :) I find it really interesting the way it connects and the with where we are at in present day , the whole Islamic scenario and the part with the AOD , check out the way in which the manner of the numbers lay out connects right up with Revelations :candle It rather intriguing how the one does not quite fit when it comes to the anti but it points to Sodom which shows a complete picture of the achitypes of anti's all down the time line people like Hitler :fear
IF 6 is the number of a man.
And 3 is a number of unity.

666 is the number of the beast. (Is it his name, as well?)

Would triple 6's then be a man, fleshly, base, sinful, the man of perdition, but united with 2 others?

in the way it reads I find

check this out

The serpent also was created on the sixth day.

The Sixth Commandment relates to the worst sin, murder.

Six is either 4 plus 2,
man's world (4)
with man's enmity to God (2)
brought in
or it is 5 plus 1,
the grace of God made of none effect by man's addition to it,

or perversion, or corruption of it
or it is 7 minus 1, man's coming short of spiritual perfection.
it has to do with man; it is the number of imperfection; the human number; the number of MAN as destitute of God, without God, without Christ.

The Hebrew #$#$'
(shaish)
derived from the root
#$da#$af (shah-dash),

but nothing is known about its origin or signification.

why ?

Similarly, the Jews (esp. Hasidim) used Hebrew alphabetical numbers to indicate concealed names and mysterious connections with other words of the same numerical value. For example, the Hebrew word nahas (“serpent”) has the same numerical value as the Hebrew word masi|ah (“Messiah”) (358). From this it was argued that one of the names of the Messiah was “serpent.” Some suggest that this may relate to Moses’ lifting up the “serpent” in the wilderness (cf. Num 21; John 3:14).

What John seems to be asking for in both cases is divine discernment and not mathematical ingenuity! Believers need to penetrate the deception of the beast. John’s reference to his number will help them to recognize his true character and identity.

this clue from John means probably a lot more than the number.

He says we should have discernment and wisdom.

something interesting though the number of division is not 3 but 2

anti is against and John pointed that out

and the one that is most is (6)

In Daniel 8:13
"Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation,"
etc.?
Here, a revelation of a certain future prophetic event was made to Daniel, by a certain saint or holy one,
a holy angel
and
"another" angel
asked a question concerning
numbers
"How long,
etc.?
The name of
that certain saint is given in the Hebrew,
and is placed in the margin, with its meaning.
His name is
"PALMONI,"
and it means
"the numberer
of secrets, or the wonderful numberer."

So that there is one holy angel,
at least, whose function has to do with numbers.
Numbers, therefore, and their secrets, hold an important place in the words as well as in the works of God.
"A wonderful numberer" ("PALMONI") presides over them, and has his place in making known the things of God.

This certainly looks like design and, if so if not only the "days"
in which revealed events shall take place are numbered, but the words also themselves are numbered
then we shall have a great and wondrous proof of the Divine, verbal, and even literal inspiration of the Word of God.

since he is numbered 6
he is a imposter
he tries to exalt up to number 12

making himself God
he can never do it
because God is sovereign and
whole complete
not a divided , not divided

which is the thing the divider does , he divides will try to even Gods promises
but can not ever be anything but a laboring impostor working for his own and against Gods

God has a will it is not incomplete
and the impostor hates that
cause he wants to will fully sit in Gods place

[Elijah'smantle]

:candle I feel like I need a little help or a lot more study when I don't want to get totally in over my head :scratch
dont u find it rather interesting as well ?
:thinking

well if u use the other number and start the crunch down it goe something like this
If u use 9 nine in stead of 6 it still points to uuhm Daniel and then Judgment just in a different like way :candle
on examination. These three
The seventh in 2 Chronicles 32;
the fourteenth in Daniel 11;
the Twenty-first in Luke 19:43, 44.
And there is a siege yet future a twenty eighth siege
which is also foretold in Scripture
(see Zech 14,
These four form
the first corresponding to the fourth
(the first and fourth sieges in each case being raised by Divine interposition);
while the second corresponds to the third in the terrible character of each, :fear
The 7th—Sennacherib.
The siege raised by a miraculous interposition by an angel from heaven. (2 Chron 32)

The 14th Antiochus (Dan 11) one of the most awful. :fear

The 21st Hadrian (Luke 19:43,44) one of the most complete.

The 28th Antichrist.
Yet future.
But the siege will be raised by a glorious deliverance, not by an angel, but by the Lord Himself coming from heaven. (Zech 14)

Thus, four are the subjects of prophecy the 7th, 14th, 21st, and 28th.

Two mark complete cycles the 10th and 20th,
when the Temple was destroyed, each being followed by fifty years of silence.

Fourteen (7x2) are recorded in the Scripture.

Thirteen are non-Biblical

Surely there is something more than chance in the occurrence of these significant numbers. :scratch

THE JUDGMENTS
of God in Haggai 1:11 are in nine particulars
And I called for a drought upon the land,
and upon the mountains, and upon the corn,
and upon the new wine,
and upon the oil,
and upon that which the ground bringeth forth,
and upon men,
and upon cattle,
and upon all the labour of the hands."
There are nine words used from the root dikh, right or judgment ?
dikh (dikee), right, right proceeding, judgment (Acts 25:15, 28:4; 2 Thess 1:9; Jude 7).
:scratch

It is important to distinguish the 10 occurrences of this word, which is variously translated, but which should be thus rendered

Luke 1:6, righteous ordinance.
Rom 1:32, the righteous sentence of God.
Rom 2:26, the righteous requirement of the Law.
Rom 5:16, righteous acquittal.
Rom 5:18, righteous act Rom 8:4, righteous requirement.
Heb 9:1,10, righteous ordinances.
Rev 15:4, righteous sentence.
Rev 19:8, righteous awards given.



ok so whats your take on that ?

fits it together

will u help me ? :)

:thinking

[Caver]

Elijah'smantle Hi and welcome to the board!:hat

Wow, you are coming at this from a completely different angle than I have seen before. I am impressed and have never seen this type of number analysis before. Am sure many here have but I am going to be learning from reading your and other posts. I certainly won't be doing any teaching on this one.

Thank you for this insight. I certainly hope some of our members can continue this discussion with you, its very informative. :nod

[Elijah'smantle]

We know from the Book of Daniel that the fourth beast is the fourth kingdom on earth, and it is a Latin kingdom! This king with a fierce countenance will advance the idea of peace by strong security forces. These strong security forces of Rome (Europe-Nato) will be looked upon by the Israel leadership as the only way to keep peace, therefore you have a false hope "messiah" that states to "follow the beast(kingdom)" and trust in His power and security.


What is happening now?
:candle

[Biblenuggetlady]

:heythere the book of Daniel is some what a little over my head but the way numbers fall is not , that's how I read best :) I find it really interesting the way it connects and the with where we are at in present day , the whole Islamic scenario and the part with the AOD , check out the way in which the manner of the numbers lay out connects right up with Revelations :candle It rather intriguing how the one does not quite fit when it comes to the anti but it points to Sodom which shows a complete picture of the achitypes of anti's all down the time line people like Hitler :fear
IF 6 is the number of a man.
And 3 is a number of unity.

666 is the number of the beast. (Is it his name, as well?)

Would triple 6's then be a man, fleshly, base, sinful, the man of perdition, but united with 2 others?

in the way it reads I find

check this out

The serpent also was created on the sixth day.

The Sixth Commandment relates to the worst sin, murder.

Six is either 4 plus 2,
man's world (4)
with man's enmity to God (2)
brought in
or it is 5 plus 1,
the grace of God made of none effect by man's addition to it,

or perversion, or corruption of it
or it is 7 minus 1, man's coming short of spiritual perfection.
it has to do with man; it is the number of imperfection; the human number; the number of MAN as destitute of God, without God, without Christ.

The Hebrew #$#$'
(shaish)
derived from the root
#$da#$af (shah-dash),

but nothing is known about its origin or signification.

why ?

Similarly, the Jews (esp. Hasidim) used Hebrew alphabetical numbers to indicate concealed names and mysterious connections with other words of the same numerical value. For example, the Hebrew word nahas (“serpent”) has the same numerical value as the Hebrew word masi|ah (“Messiah”) (358). From this it was argued that one of the names of the Messiah was “serpent.” Some suggest that this may relate to Moses’ lifting up the “serpent” in the wilderness (cf. Num 21; John 3:14).

What John seems to be asking for in both cases is divine discernment and not mathematical ingenuity! Believers need to penetrate the deception of the beast. John’s reference to his number will help them to recognize his true character and identity.

this clue from John means probably a lot more than the number.

He says we should have discernment and wisdom.

something interesting though the number of division is not 3 but 2

anti is against and John pointed that out

and the one that is most is (6)

In Daniel 8:13
"Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation,"
etc.?
Here, a revelation of a certain future prophetic event was made to Daniel, by a certain saint or holy one,
a holy angel
and
"another" angel
asked a question concerning
numbers
"How long,
etc.?
The name of
that certain saint is given in the Hebrew,
and is placed in the margin, with its meaning.
His name is
"PALMONI,"
and it means
"the numberer
of secrets, or the wonderful numberer."

So that there is one holy angel,
at least, whose function has to do with numbers.
Numbers, therefore, and their secrets, hold an important place in the words as well as in the works of God.
"A wonderful numberer" ("PALMONI") presides over them, and has his place in making known the things of God.

This certainly looks like design and, if so if not only the "days"
in which revealed events shall take place are numbered, but the words also themselves are numbered
then we shall have a great and wondrous proof of the Divine, verbal, and even literal inspiration of the Word of God.

since he is numbered 6
he is a imposter
he tries to exalt up to number 12

making himself God
he can never do it
because God is sovereign and
whole complete
not a divided , not divided

which is the thing the divider does , he divides will try to even Gods promises
but can not ever be anything but a laboring impostor working for his own and against Gods

God has a will it is not incomplete
and the impostor hates that
cause he wants to will fully sit in Gods place



You were asking about the last verses of Daniel 9. What specific verses and question are you asking? That might help us know what you are seeking. The 70th Weeks of years, were determined upon Daniel and His people (the Jews) and the Holy City, Jerusalem. 69 of those ran concurrently and have already been fulfilled, leaving one more, yet future-aka Daniel's 70th Week. The first 69 weeks of years, led to the building of the Temple that stood (but not yet finished) in Jesus' days on earth, and ened with the crucifixtion of Jesus. Now there is a pause from that time, until God again turns His face back to deal with Israel.

[Elijah'smantle]

Elijah'smantle Hi and welcome to the board!

Wow, you are coming at this from a completely different angle than I have seen before. I am impressed and have never seen this type of number analysis before. Am sure many here have but I am going to be learning from reading your and other posts. I certainly won't be doing any teaching on this one.

Thank you for this insight. I certainly hope some of our members can continue this discussion with you, its very informative.

:heythere Hi carver , :) I read diferent than most , for a long time I was maybe thought to be not so bright :scratch cause well reading comprehension problem

anyway that dont apply to the Bible cause guess what the Bible has ? :lol2 numbers from beginning to end :yeah

but I do get in over my head because u see I dont got a whole lot of help from

:pray so what I was really interested in is how it connects :)

I was thinking if I could get a real good study maybe in time I might learn some more that I dont so we could talk about it because it is real interesting the way the pattern comes to make whole picture :scratch the trouble carver is I needs help
by my self trying to study all the time is makeing me a little :idunno :pray will u ?

[Caver]

Elijah'smantle, I an a number of others will try, I am sure. It may take a few days but am sure you are going to be getting some help. I have 3 long days in a row, work, and precious little time for research.

I see our sister and mod Biblenuggetlady is already asking specifically what verses you are having trouble with 3 posts back. It will probably be Monday or Tuesday before I am going to get much time on here again unless I can climb on early tomorrow morning. I am sure that if you give it a couple of days, you will be getting plenty of help.

Welcome to the RR family!