Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology

[Harley]

Harley,

I would appreciate it if you could please answer my previous post in it's entirety - not just sections of it.



You have basically stated that I said the word "Christendom" is in the Bible - which I didn't. I merely gave it it's English definition - which anyone would have done. It is clear you tried to trick me here.

Now can you please tell me where "rapture" and "trinity" are found in the Bible?


Thanks,
Christy

Christy,

Historically "Christendom" was used two ways; 1) the universal church, all true believers, etc... and 2) the church as a geopolitical phenomenon, primarily Western Europe when the culture, the polity, and Christianity were intertwined. I simply wondered how you were using the term.

Your OP was not within quotes nor italicized, so I thought it was your own words.

In response to my asking for clarity on the use of "Christendom" you responded: "How I define 'Christendom' doesn't really matter - it's how the Bible defines Christendom and ultimately more importantly, God Himself." You never stated that the word is in the Bible. As far as I can tell the Bible never defines it either, if you have a verse in mind that defines this word, please provide it for me.

"Rapture" and "Trinity" need to be addressed separately. Since "Rapture" is a translation of the Latin which is a translation of the Greek - we can go to the Greek for a definition and the passages in which it is found for context. "Trinity" on the other hand is not found on the Bible, as is your point I assume, but the concept is. The concept of "Christendom" may be as well, but it depends on which use of the word is being employed.

I hope this helps. Any other questions I neglected to answer?

Harley

BTW - if I had told you that all you needed do was read and understand your Bible to figure this one out...would you have been insulted or thought me condescending?

[edited to add - my quote of Christy in this post does not match her post since she updated it while I was responding... which is fine, just wanted to be clear.]

[Christy]

Rapture" and "Trinity" need to be addressed separately. Since "Rapture" is a translation of the Latin which is a translation of the Greek - we can go to the Greek for a definition and the passages in which it is found for context. "Trinity" on the other hand is not found on the Bible, as is your point I assume, but the concept is. The concept of "Christendom" may be as well, but it depends on which use of the word is being employed.


Exactly my point.

The word rapture isn't found in the Bible, but the word's 'catching up' are which define the rapture.

And yes, the word "Trinity" isn't found in the Bible either - but the concept is.

Nor is the word "christendom" found in the Bible - but the concept is - i.e., believers/christians/the church.

Touche.

BTW - Nor is the word "Bible" found in the Bible - but the concept is - i.e., The Word of God.

I trust I have cleared up any misconceptions about "my biblical definition' of the word "christendom'.

BTW - if I had told you that all you needed do was read and understand your Bible to figure this one out...would you have been insulted or thought me condescending?

No, not exactly, I would go and read it and come back and give them the answers. IMO people are too easily offended nowadays - instead of putting on the entire armor of God - they get insulted. And I say that without trying to sound smart alecky.

Some people like to play around with words. I prefer to use my snoggen - my word for God-given intelligence.

The "bible definition" for "christendom" can be seen in the opening verses of the Book of Revelation - namely the 7 church ages.

Harley, I refuse any more of your invitations to argue, which can be defined as : I no longer wish to debate with you. Thank you.

[Harley]

...Clearly another duplicitious statement from your side. You didn't check my initial post against the Bible - but asked me to define christendom - which was a trick question, because if it wasn't you would've asked me "can the word "christendom" be found in the Bible? Instead of going to your Bible - you came to me and asked questions. That is clearly duplicitious....

We all know the word "Christendom" is not in the Bible - per se, so there was no point in asking you a question I knew the answer to. My question was with your use of the word so I asked you. No duplicitousness.

Harley

[I just pulled the paragraph that was added so as to respond to the post in its entirety]

[Christy]

My question was with your use of the word so I asked you

And here's my reply: (as posted above)

The "bible definition" for "christendom" can be seen in the opening verses of the Book of Revelation - namely the 7 church ages.

[Harley]

Exactly my point.

The word rapture isn't found in the Bible, but the word's 'catching up' are which define the rapture.

And yes, the word "Trinity" isn't found in the Bible either - but the concept is.

Nor is the word "christendom" found in the Bible - but the concept is - i.e., believers/christians/the church.

Touche.

BTW - Nor is the word "Bible" found in the Bible - but the concept is - i.e., The Word of God.

I trust I have cleared up any misconceptions about "my biblical definition' of the word "christendom'.

Some people like to play around with words. I prefer to use my snoggen - my word for God-given intelligence.

Harley, I refuse any more of your invitations to argue, which can be defined as : I no longer wish to debate with you.

I believe I understand how you are using the term "Christendom" - I also hope you understand, given the fact that it can be used in at least two different ways, why I asked in the first place. As I said, I'm sorry you cannot trust me enough to take my words at face value.

Harley

[Harley]

And here's my reply: (as posted above)

Thanks, sorry I didn't see your biblical reference when posted above.

Harley

[lisa]

In looking at this thread, Christy your responses to Harley seem overreactive. It appears that Harley is looking for clarification of what you stated in the OP, and you seem to be very closed to expanding on your meanings. If you are willing to started a thread, you also must be willing to take calm responsibility for explaining your stance, your ideas with the general public. Now if a thread has been started with an alterior motive, and I must say from the looks of it this one has, it must be closed as this isn't the attitude we expect our members to take with one another. If you have further questions or comments on the matter, feel free to contact the admin team. Thank you.