Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology

[Christy]

The New Age has almost replaced Biblical teaching throughout Christendom, so much so that the majority of church-goers do not know New Age from sound doctrine! These ghastly perversions of the antichrist mega-church of the Latter Days include meditation, visualization, psychology methods, group dynamics, healing of the memories, positive confession and affirmation, self-love - and many, many more New Age ideas and teachings.
We are encountering the doctrines of devils which are bringing about the One World Church of the New World Order. One of the New Age horror heresies which is gripping the lives of millions of church-goers is Kingdom Now or Dominion Theology. This unscriptural theory is from the very pit of hell - BE WARNED, Christian! It is basically the belief that Christians are to go forth and conquer, to set up a victorious Christian political, spiritual World Empire BEFORE Jesus Christ returns. This idea is humanistic, appeals to the selfish pride in the carnal minded. Jesus Christ ALONE will set up His Kingdom. The Bible tells us that if Christ did not return, the entire world would perish in the period the Bible calls the Great Tribulation (Matthew 24).

In this booklet we aim to present the main doctrines and errors of the huge movement DOMINION THEOLOGY. There are a number of startling developments which should be carefully examined by all Godly Christians in these serious days when Satan is seeking to set up the antichrist system.

Read further at:
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Books_D/dom_theol.htm

[BlessedinHim]

that is right on. It is a sad day to have to agree to such a statement. We all must be on the lookout for our loved ones, friends and neighbors, to help each other not get sucked into this.

[Harley]

Christy,

A few follow-up thoughts/questions spawned by your post:

1. How would you define "Christendom" - is this the church in America or worldwide?
2. What data do you have for saying the vast majority of Church-goers (and is this American or world-wide) have traded the Bible for New Age, sound doctrine for New Age?
3. Are these perversions only found in mega-churches? What is the correlation between size and apostasy?
4. Your description of Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology sounds a lot like Classic Postmillennialism - What's the difference and is it really Satanic?
5. Where does the Bible say Christ did not return?

Thanks in advance,

Harley

[disclaimer: I am neither postmillennial, kingdom now, dominion, nor preterist - just asking questions, that's all]

[Christy]

1. How would you define "Christendom" - is this the church in America or worldwide?
How I define "christendom" doesn't really matter - it's how the Bible defines christendom and ultimately more importantly, God Himself. One only needs to read and understand one's Bible to figure this one out. And one only has to read up what the New Age Movement's beliefs and dcotrines are and compare them to certain beliefs/doctrines in certain churches to be totally shocked to see how they correlate. Harley - do you read? Do you go out there and make a point of being well-read and educated about what is going on in the world today or do you swallow everything that is said from the pulpit because the church professes to be christian?

2. What data do you have for saying the vast majority of Church-goers (and is this American or world-wide) have traded the Bible for New Age, sound doctrine for New Age?
My opinion doesn't matter - nor does it count - what matters is the TRUTH as found in God's Word - the data I have is called THE BIBLE - and if you test most of these doctrines against Biblical doctrine - they are found seriously wanting. One only has to see what most people hold dear, what they believe, what they say - compare it to the Bible to know that the world is experiencing an apostasy or great falling away from the Faith.

3. Are these perversions only found in mega-churches?
No, they can be found in any churches, both large and small. What difference does size make anyway - people are deceived be they many or few - it's widespread.

What is the correlation between size and apostasy? I can't see what difference it makes - no matter if it's a big or a small church - it can be headed by an apostate christian leader who doesn't preach or hold onto sound Biblical doctrine.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 -
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

4. Your description of Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology sounds a lot like Classic Postmillennialism - What's the difference and is it really Satanic?
Please note - this is not my description - but what it is, what it is called and what it is known by - a doctrine made up by various certain apostate christian leaders. It's name clearly says what it is, and yes it is clearly satanic because it's doctrines state that the church will rule the world, not Jesus Christ, so in other words it takes away Christ's power and makes the church all powerful.

5. Where does the Bible say Christ did not return? Where does it state in the Bible He has returned to reign on earth? Does the current state of affairs in this world tell us that Christ is currently reigning?

But I think the following scripture sums up when He will be returning:
Mathew 24.29
Matthew 24.31
Mark 13.24
Mark 13.27
Luke 21.25
Luke 21.28

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken; then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

And here's a question for you:

Do you believe everything christian preachers/teachers tell you without questioning it or checking it out in the Bible?
1 Thessalonians 5:22 - Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.

[Harley]

Since "Christendom" is not a biblical term, I was curious how you were using it when you said "The New Age has almost replaced Biblical teaching throughout Christendom" - are you referring to the universal church? the Western church? What is the definition of "Christendom" in this sentence?

My opinion doesn't matter - nor does it count - what matters is the TRUTH as found in God's Word - the data I have is called THE BIBLE - and if you test most of these doctrines against Biblical doctrine - they are found seriously wanting.
I didn't contest that the doctrines and practices you listed would not stand the test of biblical orthodoxy. That "data" is not in question. But you made the statement that "...the majority of church-goers do not know New Age from sound doctrine."

When you say "the majority of..." you are making a statistical and quantifiable statement. I just wondered what statistical data you had to make this statement. How do you know what the majority believes? And here is where my first question came in, the majority of church-goers where? In the States, in the West, in the world?

The description "[Kingdom Now/Dominion Theology] is basically the belief that Christians are to go forth and conquer, to set up a victorious Christian political, spiritual World Empire BEFORE Jesus Christ returns" is your description in the sense that you used it. Is the difference between this and classic Postmillennialism the fact that the church reigns on earth? Obviously Postmillennialism believes the world will be "Christianized" (though even that term needs defined) - but I don't think, say Jonathan Edwards for example, would have said the church would reign sans Christ's return.

You made the statement: "The Bible tells us that if Christ did not return, the entire world would perish in the period the Bible calls the Great Tribulation (Matthew 24)."

I asked "Where in the Bible does it say Christ did not return?" This was a misreading of your question - I missed the "if" - so my question is moot.

You responded to my question with the opposite question... but since I stated that I am not a Preterist, your response is also moot.

I apologize if my questions sounded confrontational - that was not my point. Also, it seems I have angered you. Maybe your use of all caps (...what matters is the TRUTH... and ...the data I have is called THE BIBLE...) was more emphatic than angry (tough the latter seems a bit condescending - I have the same data as you do in the biblical sense). For that I too apologize.

Harley

[Harley]

Christy,

While I was writing my response, you edited/expanded your answers. The quotes in my response include your original responses.

You wrote:How I define "Christendom" doesn't really matter - it's how the Bible defines Christendom and ultimately more importantly, God Himself. One only needs to read and understand one's Bible to figure this one out.

Maybe I am imbuing your post with too much meaning, but "One only needs to read and understand one's Bible to figure this one out" comes across as rather condescending. Are you saying I cannot understand the elemental definitions of the Bible? If you would give the book and chapter of where "Christendom" is used and defined in the Bible - I'll gladly read it for myself.

As I said in my op - I'm only asking follow-up questions.

[Christy]

Since "Christendom" is not a biblical term, I was curious how you were using it when you said "The New Age has almost replaced Biblical teaching throughout Christendom" - are you referring to the universal church? the Western church? What is the definition of "Christendom" in this sentence?

It's obvious you were trying to trap me. But you yourself correlated "christendom" to - and I quote :

the universal church? the Western church? What is the definition of "Christendom" in this sentence

So read in context anyone would think you were referring to christianity/saints/true believers, besides, the word "christendom" is defined as follows:

the collective body of Christians throughout the world and history (found predominantly in Europe and the Americas and Australia); "for a thousand years the Roman Catholic Church was the principal church of Christendom"

Christendom, in the widest sense, refers to Christianity as a territorial phenomenon: those countries where most people are Christians, or nominal Christians, are part of Christendom

Read more at:
http://www.google.co.bw/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:christendom&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

it's obvious you tried to trap or trick me - which by the way isn't very christianlike. And no my answer wasn't condescending - I was merely stating a fact - how you interpret it - and how you interpreted "christendom" is entirely up to you.

If you would give the book and chapter of where "Christendom" is used and defined in the Bible -

And where exactly for your information did I state the word christendom is to be found in the Bible? I stated that "how the Bible defines christendom: - i.e., meaning christianity/the church - and yes, the Bible does mention the word CHURCH and it does mention christians, i.e., saints, believers, et al.

I'll gladly read it for myself.

Great, I'm sure glad to hear that.

Since "Christendom" is not a biblical term,

I never said it was, but it sure is an English word and it's definitions are in this post.

I was curious how you were using it when you said "The New Age has almost replaced Biblical teaching throughout Christendom"

I said that? Really? I deny that fully. Please go and read my post again and you'll see the author's name. If I said I wrote that I'd be committing plagiarism - i.e., theft!

As I said in my op - I'm only asking follow-up questions.

Harley, I'm not here to play silly games with you, nor am I here to be tricked by you. IMO you're being far from sincere - you are merely setting a trap by asking duplicitious questions. Not christian attributes.

And for your information - the word Trinity and Rapture aren't to be found in the Bible either - can you please explain that to me?

[Harley]

And here's a question for you:

Do you believe everything christian preachers/teachers tell you without questioning it or checking it out in the Bible?
1 Thessalonians 5:22 - Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.

No I do not believe everything Christians preachers/teachers tell me without questioning it or checking it out in the Bible. In fact, that's what I did with you... asked follow-up questions to better understand what you were saying.

Why do you ask this question?

[Harley]

It's obvious you were trying to trap me....
it's obvious you tried to trap or trick me - which by the way isn't very christianlike....Harley, I'm not here to play silly games with you, nor am I here to be tricked by you. IMO you're being far from sincere - you are merely setting a trap by asking duplicitous questions. Not good - and in that respect I decline to debate with you further.

Christy,

I stated from the outset that I was merely asking follow-up questions. Since you think I am lying, playing silly games, and being duplicitous, I guess no further statements on, or defenses of, my motivations would do any good.

For the record (and any others who read this post), you are wrong regarding my motivations and purposes - I was not trying to trap you nor waste your time.

If previous encounters cause you to distrust me, fine, but I'm sorry you are not willing to give me the benefit of believing me when I make definitive statements about my beliefs and motivations.

Your brother in Christ,

Harley

[Christy]

Harley,

I would appreciate it if you could please answer my previous post in it's entirety - not just sections of it.

If previous encounters cause you to distrust me, fine, but I'm sorry you are not willing to give me the benefit of believing me when I make definitive statements about my beliefs and motivations.

You have basically stated that I said the word "christendom" is in the Bible - which I didn't. I merely gave it it's English definition - which anyone would have done. It is clear you tried to trick me here.

Then you have inadvertently stated I wrote that article. Which I didn't.

No I do not believe everything Christians preachers/teachers tell me without questioning it or checking it out in the Bible. In fact, that's what I did with you... asked follow-up questions to better understand what you were saying.

Clearly another duplicitious statement from your side. You didn't check my initial post against the Bible - but asked me to define christendom - which was a trick question, because if it wasn't you would've asked me "can the word "christendom" be found in the Bible? Instead of going to your Bible - you came to me and asked questions. That is clearly duplicitious.

Now can you please tell me where "rapture" and "trinity" are found in the Bible? Please, no-one else answer this question - I want Harley to answer this.

Thanks,
Christy