Anglican head Williams says anti-gays misread Bible

[HouTex]

PARIS (Reuters) - The spiritual leader of the world's 77 million Anglicans has said conservative Christians who cite the Bible to condemn homosexuality are misreading a key passage written by Saint Paul almost 2,000 years ago.

Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, addressing theology students in Toronto, said an oft-quoted passage in Paul's Epistle to the Romans meant to warn Christians not to be self-righteous when they see others fall into sin.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1767470620070417

[BlessedinHim]

to some degree, we do. Sometimes when we see others sin, we tend to point fingers and go, look what they did or are doing, well!!!! and we forget our own sins. That is an easy human thing to do. On the other hand, gays do not deserve any special rights, and that is what they want. I think as long as a person is a practicing gay, then they should be on the outside with us trying to coach them onto the right path. Now, I know that is so not politically correct, but the bible is not about political correctness. In God's eyes, sin is sin. If we as a Christian has told one little white lie, we are as guilty of the law as the gay person is. As far as communion goes, we are told to examine ourselves, because if we eat the last supper unworthily, we are in trouble.

I Cor 11:27Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

28But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

29For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

with that said, trying to lead a person not to take communion because of an obvious blatant sin, I believe that the person doing the leading is being a loving brother or sister in Christ, trying to help that person not commit further spiritual/physical problems for themselves.

I Cor 11:30For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

31For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

32But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

33Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.

34And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.

Communion is a very serious thing, and it should not be done lightly. As seen in the very words of Christ.

[Warrior Prophet]

Today there is a surprisingly large group of people that have popped up saying that it's evangelicals who have misread the Bible in regards to the issue. Some of them discount the Bible totally, but I think they've seen if they do that they turn off some of the evangelical support that they may get. So they've created a new narrative that has looked at scripture in a twisted way that seems to justify behaviour.

I should also note that they love the term 'anti-gay.' It's been used wonderfully to make the opposition to whatever stance they may take seem intolerant and bigoted. The media likes to use it because they have a bias towards having two clear sides in an argument (a 'pro' and 'anti'). Christians use the same dirty trick from time to time as well to 'win' any given argument so all have sinned this regard. Nevertheless, by framing evangelicals and conservatives as 'anti-gay' they have effectively 'won' the debate.

[JamesTKirksGirl]

For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. They will reject the truth and chase after myths. —2 Timothy 4:3–4

[Enoch]

Condemnation isn't right no, but it's still a sin. I feel some people allow their desire to be perfect in the flesh keep them from seeing the forest because of the trees. They've got a sin to deal with like so many others have others sins - deal with it.

[inHisarms]

I listen to thewayofthemasterradio.com via podcast. It's hosted by Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, and Todd Friel. Each radio broadcast they do a segement called "fishing phone calls". They will speak with a complete stranger off the street and share the gospel with them.

It shocks and amazes me to listen to what some of the "Christians" say about their faith and the bible, more so than the non-Christians. The one thing they seem to all have in common is "if its right for you, then that's fine, even if it's wrong for me". It's hard for them to even say rape is wrong. Todd was asking several college students the other day if he thought the shooter at VA Tech was evil. Most of them said "no" and blamed society for what he did. So you can imagine what they think about homosexuality. And the "Christians" love to throw out the judge not, lest you be judged & God is love & Jesus loves everyone and died for everyone & etc. They take a bit of the scripture they do know and warp it around to have it fit in with their moral philosophy and "god". :faint

On a positive note, some do get saved upon hearing the gospel (they don't do this on air). We'll get told about it later on a different broadcast. But most of them, walk away not caring and some even laugh when they're done.

[Mitsy]

:falsep Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, addressing theology students in Toronto, said an oft-quoted passage in Paul's Epistle to the Romans meant to warn Christians not to be self-righteous when they see others fall into sin. :wolf

Tell it to God and see if He will agree with your interpretation.