LOOK at the combined speakers please..

[Sing4Him]

http://aacc.net/conferences/world-conference-07/


:sob:sob

[Betty]

does seem like a mixed bunch to me, but I guess that is good. At least it won't be all WOF:lol2

[mikalikat]

Denise, aside from the obvious Apostacy Club card carrying members, what can you tell me about the rest? I don't recognize many of them, other than the guy from Ransomed Heart Ministries.

[Sing4Him]

Good questions. :wave O.k. first I'd like to post a couple of verses from God's Word.

Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness. Luke 11:25

The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light. Rms. 13:12

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 2 Cor. 6:14

Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 1 Thess. 5:5

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light. 1 Pet. 2:9

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

[Sing4Him]

Dallas Willard--—Promoting Contemplative Prayer
and Mysticism Through Spiritual Formation

Dallas Willard is a proponent of contemplative spirituality. Here are a few facts to show this:

1. Dallas Willard Helps Launch the Renovare Spiritual Formation Study Bible. The Renovare Study Bible Released at Renovare's With-God Conference in April of 2005

2. Willard has written the foreword to Ruth Haley Barton's book, Invitation to Solitude and Silence.

3. Willard recommends several contemplative authors including Richard Foster, Henri Nouwen, Jan Johnson, and Evelyn Underhill.

4. See connections, endorsements chart below.

Dallas Willard On Salvation

"What Paul is clearly saying is that if anyone is worthy of being saved, they will be saved. At that point many Christians get very anxious, saying that absolutely no one is worthy of being saved. The implication of that is that a person can be almost totally good, but miss the message about Jesus, and be sent to hell. What kind of a God would do that? I am not going to stand in the way of anyone whom God wants to save. I am not going to say "he can't save them." I am happy for God to save anyone he wants in any way he can. It is possible for someone who does not know Jesus to be saved."—Dallas Willard,
Apologetics in Action

"As far as the content of what I try to present is concerned it focuses on the gospel of the kingdom of God and becoming a disciple of Jesus in the kingdom of God. SO it doesn't merely have an emphasis on the forgiveness of sins and assurance of heaven as you are apt to find in most evangelical circles. I think that is vital but it is not the whole story."—from Kingdom Living, Dallas Willard

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/dallaswillard.htm

[Sing4Him]

John Ortberg:

In Ortberg's 2005 book, God is Closer Than You Think, Ortberg quotes favorably from contemplatives such as Anne Lamott, Annie Dillard, Gary Thomas (Sacred Pathways), Brother Lawrence (who danced violently like a mad man when he practiced), interspiritualists Tilden Edwards (Shalem Institute), Thomas Kelly (Divine Center in all), Jean Pierre de Caussade, Frederick Buechner, Meister Eckhart as well as Dallas Willard and Thomas Merton. And yet, Christian churches are using this book.


John Ortberg, Ruth Haley Barton
and Willow Creek
by Brian Flynn
(from Running Against the Wind)

"Willow Creek Community Church in Illinois has produced a number of contemplative authors and leaders, while the Willow Creek website boasts of a "self-guided" "contemplative worship service." Ruth Haley Barton, mentioned earlier in this book, wrote the curriculum for teaching contemplative prayer at this church. More recently, she and John Ortberg, a former Willow Creek pastor, co-authored a book together. In this book, the reader is instructed to practice lectio divina, described by the authors as a slow meditative practice dating back to ancient times. At the back of this book, a list of additional reading resources include contemplative promoters such as Tilden Edwards, Dallas Willard, and Richard Foster. Both Barton and Ortberg are promoters of the contemplative prayer movement, and both are featured speakers for the very contemplative National Pastor's Convention, hosted by Youth Specialties. This annual pastor's convention teaches yoga workshops and gives participants opportunity to walk through a labyrinth and attend contemplative prayer sessions." (Running Against the Wind, p. 197-198)

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/johnortberg.htm

[Sing4Him]

http://www.churchofthegoodshepherd.info/WA...WAHcritique.htm
http://www.metrovoice.net/2003/1003_stlweb...d_at_heart.html


Making God in the Image of Man

Eldredge elevates the nature of man and denigrates the nature of God, a heresy that presents a low, weakened God vs. the true God of the Bible. In Chapter Two he offers the following views about the nature of God.

God is a risk-taker: God is all-knowing and all-powerful, yet Eldredge declares “God is a person who takes immense risks" (pg. 30) and that He “prefers adventure, danger, risk, the element of surprise.” By definition, an action can only be “risky” or a “surprise” if the outcome is unknown. Comments one reviewer, Randy Stinson, “if God is taking risks, there are no assurances that God’s purposes will actually be accomplished. If God is uncertain about how His creatures will respond, then how can we really be guaranteed that He will be ultimately victorious over evil in the end?”
God is a needy whiner: “And after years of hearing the heart-cry of women, I am convinced beyond a doubt of this: God wants to be loved. He wants to be a priority to someone. How could we have missed this? From cover to cover, from beginning to end, the cry of God's heart is, 'Why won't you choose me?' It's amazing how humble, how vulnerable God is on this point." (God vulnerable?)
Eldredge paints a pathetic picture of God not out of Scripture, but from listening to women he has counseled (page 36). Men and women may whine and complain, but God has never been a whiner or complainer. In fact, God calls complaining (murmuring) a sin, which is totally contrary to His nature.
Also on page 36, Eldredge asks the question, “Do you know why he doesn’t answer prayer right away?” and answers it with, “Because he wants to talk to us, and sometimes that's the only way to get us to stay and talk to him." There are a number of reasons why God may or may not answer prayer right away. Usually, it is to teach us something. It is never that He is desperate for our attention or lonely! God is NOT desperate for anything!

[Sing4Him]

I am puzzled as to why Kay Arthur would be part of this and also Gary Chapman.


I can post more on the featured speakers but I'll leave it at this for now..


WHY would believers (LIGHT) be in a conference that condones and promotes eastern mysticism/ contemplative practices (DARK)

The Bible tells us, as I posted above that we are NOT to be part of this. period.