What do you think?

[Saved by Grace_06]

Is the world we now exist in, with all its sin and destruction and pain, strife, and evil, the world which God planed?

[believe in him]

What I think is God gave us free will and this world is a result of our disobedience to God. God all knowing knew the outcome but always something good comes out of something bad and God will have the last word.

just my two cents::yay

[Saved by Grace_06]

So did God plan it this way, or is all of this, i.e., the sin sick world, something he had to remedy after it occured?

Thanks for your response!

[believe in him]

Honestly, It is a hard question to answere because who can know the mind of God. I personaly believe that God all knowing knew it would happen and allowed it to happen for His purpose God is to be loved and worshiped and awed and feared because He is Almighty beginning and the end I believe He allowed it and when I look back on my life through the pain and suffering that sin has caused me I fall on my knees in thanks giving that God created me and has opened my eyes renconciled me and that some day I will spend eternity with Him. So my bottom line answere is He did it for ................................................LO VE.

Thank you for your thought pervoking question.

[Saved by Grace_06]

You're welcome. Thank you for your God glorifying answer!!

[jumbo]

hi, we know from gods word that he is in complete control off absolutely everything in him we live ,move, breathe etc he spoke everything into existence he is pure ,holy, love, compassionate, but also a rightous god good in his judgements the absolute oppisite off what we know as evil he is absolutely incapable off evil he is all knowing ,present everywhere all at same time etc,the amazing thing is that right now he knows the future as though he could step into it as though it were playing out in our present tense.
now when god created the heavens and the earth and all created beings up till adam and eve he said all that he made was good. we also know god created the angels including satan and he also was created good. then sin entered satans mind and he rebelled against his creator with delusions off grandour free will even in the angels how old they are we dont know but older than the earth thats for sure , then adam and eve were living in the garden of eden pure holy without sin ,and the devil tempted not forced eve into disobeying gods commandment hence sin entered through one mans disobedience too the law off god likewise all are redeemed through one man who was without sin the lord jesus christ the perfect sacrifice that was wholly satisfactory to fulfilling the pure holy will off gods nature . he that believes on the lord jesus christ and his perfect work off salvation on the cross is brought into new life through repenance and faith and renewal off spirit by god the holy spirit, hence becoming like adam and eve before sin entered through disobedience .
we know therefore that from creation ontil the lord jesus christ returns and beyond that a plan has been working out in heaven and here on the earth that plan we now know as the great plan off salvation through jesus christ our lord . so the devil and his host one third off heaven together with mans rebelious nature towards god our creator are the results off evil in the earth from fall off man ontil the return off our lord jesus christ who will settle every thing and create all things new only this second time there will be no sin too corrupt ever again and all from generations past too generations too come whosoever will believe the gospel and repent and call upon the name off the lord shall be saved and god will give onto them the holy spirit who will indwell them making them to become born again and through confession and faith too the lord jesus christ we grow from babes too mature people by feeding on gods living word because in truth the lord jesus christ is the word off god. god bless

[jumbo]

i checked your myspace website i really like the imfomation on cs lewis he actually was born about 10 miles from my home town off northern ireland i read lots off his books yrs ago a real inspiration to me as a young believer also the revival vidio was excellant caused me too really examine my own aproach too how i needed too view my relationship towards the lord.
here are some websites i have bookmarked and use and have been a real blessing: http://audiosermonindex.com/members/html/
http://www.sermonaudio.com/main.asp

http://www.revivalhymn.com/index-3.html
god bless

[Saved by Grace_06]

Thanks for the websites! I am familiar with all of them. Here's a good website from a preacher who is from your part of the world:

http://www.preachtheword.co.uk/

He has a really great sermon called "Liar, Lunatic, or Lord" which is based off of CS Lewis' famous tri-lemma. Check it out.

God Bless,

Terrence

PS: Here's the link to "liar, lunatic, or Lord?"

http://www.preachtheword.co.uk/sermon/gospel004-liarlunaticorlord.shtml

[jumbo]

thankyou ive bookmarked the website. www.firefighters.org there is the whole kjv bible in audio format that can be downloaded to your computer i listen and follow in my bible at same time helps in reading the bible.

[Hootmon]

Is the world we now exist in, with all its sin and destruction and pain, strife, and evil, the world which God planed?Yes, because the alternative is that God cant accomplish His own will.