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Biblenuggetlady
May 25th, 2008, 09:26 PM
40,000 documented miracles of healing with at least nine people having been raised from the dead.
Curious...how did the dead people get to this place? Did they wheel them in, in their coffins or did people die during the revival and were revived. How long had the persons been dead, more than 3 days? :thinking
HeIsEnough
May 26th, 2008, 11:05 AM
I think He is Enough is asking for documentation for all the healings that are being claimed to have happened.
That is what I thought too. If people had been raised form the dead, then that would likely be on all the news channels.
Yes, exactly.
I don't think anyone is questioning God, but folks have a right to be cautious and use discernment when believing stories posted on the internet, Christian-based or otherwise. HeIsEnough asked for documentation that she was healed, not the news stories merely stating she was healed. Surely you can understand the apprehension many would have concerning this claim. It's not a matter of having enough faith, it's a matter of wanting to be sure it's true in the first place.
Please post documentation that she was healed.
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What would it take for you to believe that this has happened? I personally think you are not sure God can do these things and especially think He wouldn't use this preacher to do it----and are looking for excuses not to believe it...
Hey listen, I have seen God move mightily in my life, and the life of my wife and children. I don't need to list any details for anyone, as we believers have been given all the evidence we need, as we needed it.
As I stated previously, these are pretty stupendous claims, as the claim of the current lady who revived in the hospital is, with hospital staff as testimonials. I would at the very least expect to see nine people who could not be shut up about praising God for what He did.
You claimed nine have been raised, or he/they claimed it. If your going to claim it, you need to substantiate it with all that you can muster. (basically a charge to that ministry for making the claim) Since this time in history is very technical, I would expect to see stories which cannot be explained. Documented with scientific evidence. Then we can all make up our minds towards these claims. You can make it appear as if I am the one not believing God is moving here, but that motivation on your part is saying more towards your claim than any of my words.
One of the charges you have from the scriptures is to not immediately believe claims like these, but to test them and hear the evidence. Lying signs and wonders are far more dangerous than true healing from the Lord.
Just because I am challenging you, doesn't say anything towards my particular beliefs.
BlessedinHim
May 26th, 2008, 11:53 AM
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?p=603868#post603868 Go there and watch that video. It is about Todd Bentley in action, out of his own mouth. . . .
Anddra
May 26th, 2008, 12:06 PM
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?p=603868#post603868 Go there and watch that video. It is about Todd Bentley in action, out of his own mouth. . . .
I do not see how anyone can watch that and think it is of God.
BlessedinHim
May 26th, 2008, 01:13 PM
I dont either. Doesnt make sense at all to me!
jaysmom
May 26th, 2008, 03:29 PM
So, first hand reports you will not believe, news stories-you will not believe? Ok then-I see where your heart is.
Believe it or not-it doesn't matter-God is still doing mighty things.
My links were not to "vision and dreams" sites-but links to an AP wire story and a link from a Florida Newspaper.
I am not trying to take up for Tod Bentley-really, I haven't watched enough to have an opinion-and I don't go to gossip sites like some of you have---yes, don't kid yourself that's what they are -just like the world has-we as Christians have them too----but I do know that God heals today-He has not changed.
I have watched a little of the revival meetings-not too much because it hurts my husbands heart-for personal reasons-to watch things happening in Lakeland Florida...
but this I did see..I see God's Love in the meetings in Lakeland..
I see people who love Jesus.. those ministering love Jesus.. and those attending love Jesus..And they love each other..
The devil may be able to 'fake' healings.. maybe he did---BUT he can't fake love.. there is no love in him..
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lisa
May 26th, 2008, 04:10 PM
So, first hand reports you will not believe, news stories-you will not believe? Ok then-I see where your heart is.
So since some don't see things the way you do, you get to judge the hearts of others? Very dangerous.
Believe it or not-it doesn't matter-God is still doing mighty things.
Indeed He is. This incident may not be one of those mighty things, which is why some are using discernment in what they are willing to believe.
My links were not to "vision and dreams" sites-but links to an AP wire story and a link from a Florida Newspaper.
One of the sites had visions and dreams all over it. The other was a messageboard on the Florida paper with people posting about what they thought. Both are against board rules.
I am not trying to take up for Tod Bentley-really, I haven't watched enough to have an opinion-and I don't go to gossip sites like some of you have---yes, don't kid yourself that's what they are -just like the world has-we as Christians have them too----but I do know that God heals today-He has not changed.
I have watched a little of the revival meetings-not too much because it hurts my husbands heart-for personal reasons-to watch things happening in Lakeland Florida...
but this I did see..I see God's Love in the meetings in Lakeland..
I see people who love Jesus.. those ministering love Jesus.. and those attending love Jesus..And they love each other..
The devil may be able to 'fake' healings.. maybe he did---BUT he can't fake love.. there is no love in him..
So you are willing to venture to the point that this MAY be a fake healing?? So then why all the drama here? Is it so wrong that folks want proof? There are many, many, many wolves in sheep clothing out there who will do anything to get Christians to believe their tricks. We are called to be wise. Wisdom isn't believing everything you see on the surface.
lisa
May 26th, 2008, 04:11 PM
We've gone round and round on this topic. For now, this thread is closed.
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