What will martial law be like?

[WarGamer]

Glad I'm just a medic. My unit specializes in riot control and civil unrest, being an MP company. I just triage, treat and transport.

[Caver]

Resistance is futile.
Did you guys know that when the ammendment to bare arms was made, they had weapons equal to any mallitia? Well, thats certainly not the case now.

Our right to bare arms now is basically useless.

Anyone who rebells will be shut down faster then it took them to think of it!

My friend, there might be a few countries in the last 20 years that want to debate this...they may need to revise their history. In fact, I don't remember that Papa San and Mama San in Nam having much more than a single shot or bolt action hunting rifles. They did a very nice job for their side, but individually....not as large units.


Of course, its not our place to rebel this time. Love always protects, but conformity is the name of our game until rapture. Well, unless were asked to conform outside Jesus, then its time to run, endure persecution or die.

Some of us feel more options are allowed. I don't know if I could or would fight to protect myself, but I would to protect others.

What's the numbers, it takes over 100 well trained and equipped troops of many disciplines to track down one moderately trained insurgent.

I don't think these statements are supported by history, fact, or scripture. I could be wrong, have never considered studying scripture from this angle. I know armed and determined but initially sparsely supplied and trained populations have toppled well armed and supplied governments in very recent years. We, as a population, are far better armed. We have an entire population of well trained, veteran and experienced military people of every description.

[Faith&Hope]

We may find out during the four day drink fest during Obama's inaguration celebration.
I would not want to be in DC at that time. Yikes!!

[Gomenasai]

My friend, there might be a few countries in the last 20 years that want to debate this...they may need to revise their history. In fact, I don't remember that Papa San and Mama San in Nam having much more than a single shot or bolt action hunting rifles. They did a very nice job for their side, but individually....not as large units.



Some of us feel more options are allowed. I don't know if I could or would fight to protect myself, but I would to protect others.

What's the numbers, it takes over 100 well trained and equipped troops of many disciplines to track down one moderately trained insurgent.

I don't think these statements are supported by history, fact, or scripture. I could be wrong, have never considered studying scripture from this angle. I know armed and determined but initially sparsely supplied and trained populations have toppled well armed and supplied governments in very recent years. We, as a population, are far better armed. We have an entire population of well trained, veteran and experienced military people of every description.
By all means, protect others, protect your family, protect the word. But I would say running, fleeing to the mountains perhaps, would be a much better route to achieve this. Especially for those alive during the tribulation. Our battle is not with swords or the flesh, but with principles and virtues. We quite obviously would be stopped in our tracks rebelling against the man of lawlessness, or even beforehand, the powers that bring him to his place.

Why I say, run, rather then standing ground and firing, what about the man that just died, serving the military? Was he no better then the one who killed him? Has he been saved? How was Gods love being reflected off His child who just shot this man dead and quite possibly went to hell?

Say a group of militants, following a tyrannous government, broke into my house and things were as bad as they'd get before tribulation, no shots would be fired by me. If they would kill me and my family for being "enemies of the state" (specifially, christian) then so be it. I may try and knock them out, and help my family escape, moreso if any of them wern't saved, but if this be my fate it was in the Lords plan. If they sought to detain us, so be it. Christians can expect persecution, where does it say "Kill those who may persecute you?" Rather, pray for them and endure.

And if I am found unworthy for rapture and live into it, of course I would need to analize my life, seriously, but even at that point, running would be my only recourse. I would be terrofied to pick up a gun and shoot an unbelieving man. (and certainly wouldn't shoot a believing one!)

To die is to gain in the Lord.

[Jnett]

I am living a "regular" life. I am a stay at home mom. I do work part time here and there. My husband works full time at a great job bringing home most of our income. My oldest is in the 5th grade. She plays outside everyday after school. My youngest is 4. She is happy with her young life. We are trying to have another child, and are not worried about doing so. We have a nice home. We can go to the grocery store and see the shelves full. We can buy what we need when we need it. Our church is right across the street. No one can tell us what to do or how to do it, other than our bosses at work, rightfully so. My point is.... LIFE IS GOOD and GRAND. Before the rapture, what may we go through? I worry because I don't feel like our lives will be the same as written above, and then POOF! we are in Heaven.

I worry about what may come, not so much that I do not give it to God, just, will my daughter ALWAYS be able to play outside after school? Or will there be dirty bomb fallout somewhere near us?

Will my 4 year old feel safe in this world?

Will I have to care for a newborn in a world where I cannot easilyget food, leave my house, or wish I had a gun?

I feel something drastic will happen in the US and effect us all.

What do you all think most of us may have to endure before Rapture? Martial Law? Nuclear attack? Another Great Depression? Other? Just curious....:unsure

[Caver]

Who knows where all this is going in the short term. All I am saying is that that there are plenty of sufficient military trained and privately equipped people in this country to give an occupying force pause.

As we see on here, any number of people are no longer seeing ourselves as a government of a people and by a people. In fact, many feel our nation has been subverted and sold out from within.

This nation was founded on the principal of representative, not oppressive, government. If, and when, the people begin to feel that is no longer the case there are certain options available. One may be to take it back.

I see nothing in our former makeup, supply or scripture that would prevent that attempt. Our government calls for protection and defending the constitution and certain other rights.

One could argue that following our governmental obligations require that it be fought for and reacquired.

I don't know and its all supposition. We aren't there yet...I don't think. As with all end time events, its certainly going to be interesting.

[zhan]

We may find out during the four day drink fest during Obama's inaguration celebration.
I would not want to be in DC at that time. Yikes!!

Heh, you know, I just had a paranoid thought. You know how the media likes to cover basically paparazzi style stories these days instead of real news any time they can get them? What if the party is just a smoke screen to give the talking heads something to look at, talk about, and 'report' on? While they're side-tracked with that, Obama could gut many executive orders and slip though some new ones while everyone is distracted. It may not be reported on for weeks or longer.

Mind you, that's just a paranoid thought of mine. It could just be a simple four day party too.

[Gomenasai]

Who knows where all this is going in the short term. All I am saying is that that there are plenty of sufficient military trained and privately equipped people in this country to give an occupying force pause.

As we see on here, any number of people are no longer seeing ourselves as a government of a people and by a people. In fact, many feel our nation has been subverted and sold out from within.

This nation was founded on the principal of representative, not oppressive, government. If, and when, the people begin to feel that is no longer the case there are certain options available. One may be to take it back.

I see nothing in our former makeup, supply or scripture that would prevent that attempt. Our government calls for protection and defending the constitution and certain other rights.

One could argue that following our governmental obligations require that it be fought for and reacquired.

I don't know and its all supposition. We aren't there yet...I don't think. As with all end time events, its certainly going to be interesting. Well, I certainly see where your coming from. Force was necessary in the past to establish a state for jews and gentiles in the past. But honestly, I think we can kiss those days goodbye

If there were a riot, rebellion, they wouldn't even need to have american troops fighting. They could cycle out U.N. forces to get things under controle. And the US WAS based on a represenetive government, but I believe demonic forces have been working to undue this for many years now. You may be right, but I honestly dont see a God-inspired state coming out of this. And to those rebelling against the "establishment", well, if Gods not on their side, who is? There is a population just waiting and wants to do something about this, like those who've seen movies like Zietgiest and see that our government is really messed up now and power has been in the hands of an elect few, but I dont know if they'll really do anything about it when time comes. And I speculate any of them that do will only cause a small pause. What was it worth?

Although, Im also guessing Obama will have and does have a lot of people basically prepared to accept the coming order.

"Just do what Obama says and everything will be alright. He said so, he really cares about us!"

It would certainly be worse then the citizens living in North American colonies supporting the British out of fear.

EDIT* Also, Americans have had it too good in the past and now to really get up and fight. It may take 100 soldiers to take out a runnaway insurgant but that guy has nothing, and believes hes fighting for glory. If it gets really bad here, then MAYBE americans would try and do something about it, but if they manage to keep it cozy for the bulk of them, no ones gonna get up off their couch.

[Jnett]

Heh, you know, I just had a paranoid thought. You know how the media likes to cover basically paparazzi style stories these days instead of real news any time they can get them? What if the party is just a smoke screen to give the talking heads something to look at, talk about, and 'report' on? While they're side-tracked with that, Obama could gut many executive orders and slip though some new ones while everyone is distracted. It may not be reported on for weeks or longer.

Mind you, that's just a paranoid thought of mine. It could just be a simple four day party too.

That is not really a paranoid thought. In fact I think you could be right. In the left behind books there are parties like that. Nothing good can come from having alcohol served for 96 straight hours. What ARE they thinking???:shocked

[Tall Timbers]

I havent put moeny into guns either. I'm looking for more unorthodox forms of weaponry by taking it back a few centuries with bows & arrows, throwing axes, got a torch, rake, and pitchfork at the ready, and looking to top it all off with tar & feathers. Pretty good arsenal don't you think? :candle

Unless you're facing guns.