OSAS question

[Saved by Grace_06]

Why do some people believe you can lose your salvation?

[Mike]

Why do some people believe you can lose your salvation?
It is hard to let go of a works mentality.

Prov. 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

It seems right to earn your salvation and it is hard to let go of that way of thinking.

[raptureme]

if you renounce God or sin by doing soemthing like a murder, then I think you can become unsaved

[christfollower]

Why do some people believe you can lose your salvation?

Because the Bible basically tells us "It aint over till its over..."

Obviously that isn't a direct quote. But it is the truth.

[Saved by Grace_06]

Because the Bible basically tells us "It aint over till its over..."

Obviously that isn't a direct quote. But it is the truth.

How do you understand Romans 8:30?

"And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified."

Note: There are no drop outs from those justified to those glorified.

[Saved by Grace_06]

if you renounce God or sin by doing soemthing like a murder, then I think you can become unsaved

How do you understand what you said in relation to 1John 3:9?

"No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God."

One of the marks of a Christian, according to this verse, is that you will not be able to sin habitually because God's seed remains in you. If then God seed abides in a Christian insomuch that he cannot sin habitually, how does a person go from Christian to sinning so much as to become a Non-Christian again?

[Veillifted]

You cannot lose salvation once obtained, but there are many who do not have the assurance of salvation.

In other words those who are saved will have evidence of the Holy Spirit working in their lives and they bear fruit and share faith ect.

Others who think they have accepted Jesus through a sinners prayer and just go on about their life as if it never happened or live questionable lifestyle once "receiving Jesus" may not truly be saved.

Those who are saved cannot lose it though :)

[MasterDummy]

Some people don't believe Jesus in their hearts, only in their minds.

[Saved by Grace_06]

What wasn't a "dummy" statement at all!

[Galoutofdixie]

"John 6:39 says that the Son will lose none of those the Father has given Him. John 10:29 says no one can snatch us out of the father's hand. Romans 8:38-39 says that nothing can separate the believer from the love of God. Neither John nor Paul exempt ourselves from this promise.

2 Cor. 1:21-22 is perhaps the clearest. It says, "Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come

There is not even the slightest hint anywhere in Scripture that the Holy Spirit can be unsealed and the guarantee voided, by God or anyone else. We are either forever saved or we were never saved. http://www.gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/osas-another-look

And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession—to the praise of his glory. (Ephesians 1:13-14)

The word translated "deposit" is a legal term. Today we would say Earnest Money. It's a down payment that constitutes a legal obligation to follow through with the purchase. If you've ever bought any Real Estate, you're familiar with the term. If not, here's another example. It's like we've been put on "lay away." The price has been paid and we've been taken off the display shelf until the one who has purchased us returns to claim us. In the mean time we cannot be bought by anyone else, because we legally belong to the one who has paid the deposit. "You are not your own," we're told. "You were bought with a price." (1 Cor. 6:19-20)

Paul made it even clearer when he repeated this incredible promise in 2 Cor. 1:21-22. Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come.


This time He removed all doubt as to just Who it is that keeps us saved. Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. What could be clearer?" :yay

http://www.gracethrufaith.com/selah/eternal-security/osas-the-whole-story