Resisting the flesh

[krw0315]

I may have missed this among the many helpful replies, but you could just tell the girl that you are offended by her lack of modesty. Why does the man always have to exercise restraint? Why not the females?

[raptureme]

I may have missed this among the many helpful replies, but you could just tell the girl that you are offended by her lack of modesty. Why does the man always have to exercise restraint? Why not the females?

Because that is the first step down a road that leads to Burkhas, as long as she's not naked, it's her business what she wears. We all need to show control in our hearts

[triumphantlamb]

Late to the thread, but on the original post what I thought of was the thorn that was put in Paul's side. Remember we can't be perfect all the time no matter how hard we try. Our weaknesses and imperfections remind us of God's perfection and grace. It's not like you were seeking her out, like adjusting your route to when she's washing the car...

[No2Flesh]

You know (for me anyway) the hardest thing for a husband is to live fully for Christ. Meaning when I fall into a sin (ie unrighteous angry or a foul mouth) my wife uses this sometimes to justify herself if she does it also instead of taking full blame for her actions. SO as you were saying Love the wife as Christ loves the church is basically what we as husbands are required to do. Sometimes when I am accused of my sins I bringing up the times when Christ is seen through me (ie when wife is fighting and I am calm and talk softly to her trying to calm her down or be able to take control of a situation w/o anger or harsh words.)

I know what you mean brother. My wife does that too.
Im trying to love mine as Christ loves the church as commanded but although that sounded easy at 1st Im finding my flesh gets in the way of that too.
Especially my own pride.

[No2Flesh]

I may have missed this among the many helpful replies, but you could just tell the girl that you are offended by her lack of modesty. Why does the man always have to exercise restraint? Why not the females?

In the right context maybe, but I am a visitor to her house and have no right
to go Taliban on her. Besides that I couldnt possibly make all the women I run into dress how I would prefer so in the end the solution is to control what I can: My response to it.

[No2Flesh]

Late to the thread, but on the original post what I thought of was the thorn that was put in Paul's side. Remember we can't be perfect all the time no matter how hard we try. Our weaknesses and imperfections remind us of God's perfection and grace. It's not like you were seeking her out, like adjusting your route to when she's washing the car...

Sometimes I really thank God for Pauls thorn in the flesh, and Jesus response to it: "My Grace is sufficient."

[Wally]

2 items.

Titus 2:3-5 It is for the older women to admonish and train the younger. Don't do their job. A father can train his daughter but the best example of a Godly woman is..a Godly Woman. This may be a conviction for someone in your church to minister to this young lady. Encourage them.


A legalistic person is a difficult challenge. IF this is an issue with someone you love and care about, quoting scripture does not work well. Remember the pharasee and the tax collector Luke 18:9-14, one's self opnion was critical

But I find 1 Cor 13 the best place to start. However replace the word Love(agape) with selfless giving seeking only the benefit of others. Verses 4,5,6,7 define agape. Now it is important not to charge the individual of not loving, but to encourage that when they do acts of love, when they are striving to be obedient to God as an act of love, to check themselves. Are they seeking others benefit and nothing for themselves?

Again this is very difficult with anyone who thinks they are good -enough. The best thing to do is get them to look at themselves. Do not judge, but let the Spirit convict.

[krw0315]

Because that is the first step down a road that leads to Burkhas,...

that's a leap!

how is exercising modesty Talibanization?

I'm just saying christians seem to always be the ones to show "tolerance" -- why can't the worldlings be expected to do the same. If we express that we are offended by certain things (whatever, not necessarily immodest women), shouldn't we expect the same courtesy they expect of us?

just sayin'

[No2Flesh]

2 items.

Titus 2:3-5 It is for the older women to admonish and train the younger. Don't do their job. A father can train his daughter but the best example of a Godly woman is..a Godly Woman. This may be a conviction for someone in your church to minister to this young lady. Encourage them.


A legalistic person is a difficult challenge. IF this is an issue with someone you love and care about, quoting scripture does not work well. Remember the pharasee and the tax collector Luke 18:9-14, one's self opnion was critical

But I find 1 Cor 13 the best place to start. However replace the word Love(agape) with selfless giving seeking only the benefit of others. Verses 4,5,6,7 define agape. Now it is important not to charge the individual of not loving, but to encourage that when they do acts of love, when they are striving to be obedient to God as an act of love, to check themselves. Are they seeking others benefit and nothing for themselves?

Again this is very difficult with anyone who thinks they are good -enough. The best thing to do is get them to look at themselves. Do not judge, but let the Spirit convict.

Thanks Wally, please say a prayer for my wife and for me that I wont get in the way of what God is doing in her heart.

[No2Flesh]

that's a leap!

how is exercising modesty Talibanization?

I'm just saying christians seem to always be the ones to show "tolerance" -- why can't the worldlings be expected to do the same. If we express that we are offended by certain things (whatever, not necessarily immodest women), shouldn't we expect the same courtesy they expect of us?

just sayin'

I understand what you are saying about the double standard.
Its certainly aggravating and frustrating.

If they are lost then most have no solid motive to be fair.
So what can we do about it?

How we respond gives us the control..In the case of scantily clad women we can ogle or chose to ignore the flesh and look away.