View Full Version : The Political Economics of "Global Warming"
KnightErrant
April 27th, 2007, 04:39 PM
So what is the answer?
When we have destroyed our ability to live on this planet arguments about was 'economically impossible' are going to sound pretty hollow.....
As Jesus said to some of His listeners, "This shows that you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God."
For as He also said of the Endtimes, "If those days had not been shortened, none would have survived, but for the sake of the Elect, those days have been shortened."
Earth will not become unliveable until just before He returns to renew it. Q.E.D.
Widowsmyte
May 1st, 2007, 12:55 AM
ALG:
Didn't work?! We MUST work our your poor lab techniques!
Plan on staying after class next Tuesday. If you are struggling with ice & water I can only shudder to think of the next unit when you have to light the bunsen burner for the first time (tee-hee).
Humbly yours --- widowsmyte
CitySearcher
May 1st, 2007, 03:21 AM
More than half of all frozen water is above sea level. Some thousands of feet thick and miles long/wide. If for some reason, all of this ice melts, the sea levels would rise dramatically. How much is still up for argument...
Let's try a new experiment. Fill a pan with water all the way to the top. Place a block of ice on top of the uncovered pan. When it melts, does all the water go into the full pan?? Uh, no.....it spills over the sides. What if you only fill the pan to 3 or 4 inches from the top? The melting ice will finish filling the pan, and then depending upon how large the ice chunk is, or how much of it is allowed to melt; the pan will then overflow.
Water will seek out the nearest and lowest sea level to inundate. Coastal dwellings that are at or below sea level, will indeed see flooding if the ice continues to recede.
God bless. -CS
racercorey28
May 1st, 2007, 10:43 AM
funny thing here is these global warming wackos like all gore and cherl crow are wanting you not themselves to give up life for their ideas on (earth worship )i mean global warming , also mars southern polar ice caps are melting and i dont believe there are any suv george bush or united states on that planet so maybe the sun is the only answer in this debate, it will be left out because it will not lead to total governing power wanted by the globalist. god bless all........:
Abba'sLil'Girl
May 1st, 2007, 04:07 PM
ALG:
Didn't work?! We MUST work our your poor lab techniques!
Plan on staying after class next Tuesday. If you are struggling with ice & water I can only shudder to think of the next unit when you have to light the bunsen burner for the first time (tee-hee).
Humbly yours --- widowsmyte
:lol2 Yes, bring on the bunsen burner . . . I'll bring the marshmallows. :)
Abba'sLil'Girl
May 1st, 2007, 04:13 PM
More than half of all frozen water is above sea level. Some thousands of feet thick and miles long/wide. If for some reason, all of this ice melts, the sea levels would rise dramatically. How much is still up for argument...
Let's try a new experiment. Fill a pan with water all the way to the top. Place a block of ice on top of the uncovered pan. When it melts, does all the water go into the full pan?? Uh, no.....it spills over the sides. What if you only fill the pan to 3 or 4 inches from the top? The melting ice will finish filling the pan, and then depending upon how large the ice chunk is, or how much of it is allowed to melt; the pan will then overflow.
Water will seek out the nearest and lowest sea level to inundate. Coastal dwellings that are at or below sea level, will indeed see flooding if the ice continues to recede.
God bless. -CS
NASA satellite images have shown the ice at the poles greatly receeding and greatly replenishing for decades. According to NASA scientists, Dr. Spencer and Dr. Christie, it seems to be a natural occurance.
I live on the coast. . . no flooding has taken place during the many years of contraction and expansion of the poles. In fact, our water levels at sea and on land are drastically low. :)
SumSam
May 1st, 2007, 10:34 PM
I'll have to look it up, but I remember reading an article that said there have been several times in the recent geological epoch when the north polar ice cap completely disappeared, and built up again after an ice free interlude of a few hundred years.
It would seem there is much more natural variability to the global climate than we with our short span of climate studies are willing to give credit for.
SumSam
May 1st, 2007, 10:42 PM
I also remember watching a programme on (Discovery/NG?) where they showed the above water remains of a harbor and dock from classical Roman times, the pillars had been 30 feet underwater and you could clearly see the holes bored into them by marine organisms all those years back.
They said the reason the place is now high and dry rather than 10 feet under could be on account of the earth's crust swelling or subsiding in different places. Added to that are variations in sea levels too. The coastline is a variable thing and you may end up going under or farther away from the water over a few hundred years due to natural fluctuations.
Abba'sLil'Girl
May 1st, 2007, 11:36 PM
I also remember watching a programme on (Discovery/NG?) where they showed the above water remains of a harbor and dock from classical Roman times, the pillars had been 30 feet underwater and you could clearly see the holes bored into them by marine organisms all those years back.
They said the reason the place is now high and dry rather than 10 feet under could be on account of the earth's crust swelling or subsiding in different places. Added to that are variations in sea levels too. The coastline is a variable thing and you may end up going under or farther away from the water over a few hundred years due to natural fluctuations.
Great input, but I would note that extreme coastline fluctuations take thousands of years to be overwhelmingly evident. The changes that occur over a hundred years or so would probably be a few inches to a foot or so.
Again, great input! :) Thanks.
CitySearcher
May 2nd, 2007, 02:59 AM
NASA satellite images have shown the ice at the poles greatly receding and greatly replenishing for decades. According to NASA scientists, Dr. Spencer and Dr. Christie, it seems to be a natural occurrence.
I live on the coast. . . no flooding has taken place during the many years of contraction and expansion of the poles. In fact, our water levels at sea and on land are drastically low. :)
I agree with you. I am not a GW fanatic, but I do believe we are in a warming period/cycle, whatever one choses to say.
If God were to choose a warming period/cycle, combined with the sun's cycle just entering into the upswing, to increase the temperature and melt more ice, then so be it. Man's input will be some of the cause also I'm sure. But my point was, if all the ice did happen to melt, it would indeed flood all coastal areas even if it took a long 100 year 'cycle' to do it.
I am not into 'worship' of the phenomenon, or a fan at making/losing money over the issue. I believe it is at the core of every individual to take personal responsibly for their own actions/inactions, and be good stewards of God and His Creation. Just wanted to clarify my stance on the issue.
In Scripture, the are a few passages that could be seen as the Earth getting warmer during the end times. Only God knows the time table, but He seems to be getting alot of people's attention lately. :nod
God bless. -CS
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