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terrilynn
February 27th, 2008, 02:06 PM
There are core doctrines of the faith that CANNOT be deviated from. Anyone who does diviate from these core doctrines can be considered a apostate....but I have to say many on this forumn are quick to use the word. Just because somone does not agree with you or your interpretation of the Scriptures does not make them a apostate. If Jack Van Impe has strayed from the core doctrines (which I do not believe he has) then he is an apostate. I have to say though he has made some off the wall comments lately about prophecy..but that does not make him a apostate.

Berean Girl
February 27th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Please inform yourselves

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JVI is apostate, period.

From Deception in the Church:

Ecumenism & Interfaith(2)
Jack & Rexella Van Impe - Views by Bob Hunter, The Contenders, 2000 A number of Van Impe's views on such subjects as: Y2K, and Anti-Christ and ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ecumenism.htm

impe
Jack & Rexella Van Impe. What a pair! This show proves that Bible memorization is not the ... Jack Van Impe purportedly has memorized the whole Bible. ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/impe.html

Articles... of the NAR and it's leadership of C. Peter Wagner, Cindy Jacobs, Chuck Peirce, Dutch Sheets, Bill Hamon, Jack Deere and others. .... Jack van Impe ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/page3.html

Personalized Research
Jack van Impe. End Times Apostasy. False Prophets, Unbiblical Teachers, etc. Reinhard Bonnke. William Branham. Paul Cain. Tony Campolo ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/personalized.html

POPE ENTRUSTS WHOLE CHURCH TO MARY
This is the same pope who has been praised by evangelical leaders such as Billy Graham, Jack Van Impe, Bill Bright, and Chuck Colson. ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/popemary2.html - 3k - Cached - Similar pages

EVANGELICAL LEADERS PARTICIPATE IN PAPAL MASS
Behold Billy Graham, Chuck Colson, Bill Bright, Jack Van Impe, James Robison, Pat Robertson, and a myriad of other so-called evangelical leaders who have ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/papal.html

False Prophets & Teachers
Jack Hayford of the Church of the Way in Van Nuys, California, is the founding pastor. Two of his congregation just happen to be Paul and Jan Crouch of TBN ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/fprophets.html

JBC Questions Page c) · Jack & Rexela Van Impe
... This preacher said: "[Jesus] is greater than Bud Lite, greater than Jack Daniels, greater than Wild Turkey, greater than ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/door1q.htm

JBC Questions Page 4.
Who claims U.N troops are currently hiding out in U.S. national parks? a) · Pat Robertson · b) · Gene Scott · c) · Jack & Rexela Van Impe ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/door2q.htm

From Jacob Prasch Moriel Ministries:

End Times Catholic Misfits - Moriel Ministries
The Misfits’ favorite TV show is Jack Van Impe Presents, a program that caters to their strange hodgepodge of beliefs. Van Impe receives much of his support ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...ic_misfits.htm

The Great Apostasy - Moriel Ministries
Also on another Praise-the-Lord program Matthew took aim at prophecy teacher Jack Van Impe for using a fear of prophetic speculation to get people to buy ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...t_apostasy.htm

Brother Andrew and Light Force - Moriel Ministries
I have experienced this with Jack Van Impe, and Billy Graham with their ecumenism, John Hagee and his dual covenant heresy, and now even Brother Andrew. ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/notic...ight_force.htm

Important Information for Dr. Charles Stanley - Moriel Ministries...
Ted Haggard, Kenneth Copeland, Cindy Jacobs, Keith Butler, Charles Stanley , Tommy Tenney, Jack Van Impe, Judy Jacobs, Eddie and Alice Smith, ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...es_stanley.htm

Pentecostal and Charismatic-Is There or Was There Any Difference
...Preacher Jack Van Impe, who stems solidly from the fundamentalist camp appears to have become as heterodox in some of his beliefs as even the most extreme ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...harismatic.htm

Welcome to Moriel Ministries - Discernment
Personality Temperament Divination Alive & Well in the Church; Eastern Mysticism in Evangelicalism MP3; Jack Van Impe Now Relying On Inca Calendar ...
www.moriel.org/discern/various_interests.htm

What About Peter Ruckman? - Moriel Ministries
... tin-horned punks," "incredible idiots," "egotistical jack legs," ... Lindsey, Kirban, Rockwood, Webber, and Van Impe ... plus the Puritans, Reformers, ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...er_ruckman.htm

From Dave Hunt The Berean Call:

Y2K and Bible Prophecy | thebereancall.org
5 Jack Van Impe has advised his TV viewers not to fly at that time. Like Van Impe, many noted Christian writers and speakers are sounding Y2K alarms. ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5812

Evangelical Mysticism? | thebereancall.org
Others followed, including Bill Bright, Pat Robertson, JI Packer, Timothy George, Robert Schuller, Hank Hanegraaff, Benny Hinn, and Jack Van Impe. ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/6433

Evangelicals & Catholics: The Next Generation? | thebereancall.org
... Luis Palau, Robert Schuller, Hank Hanegraaff, Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, Elisabeth Elliot, Paul and Jan Crouch, Jack Hayford, Jack Van Impe, ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5204

June 2001 Newsletter: Why Evangelize Roman Catholics
...... Bill Bright, Chuck Colson, Robert Schuller, Hank Hanegraaff, Paul Crouch, Jack Van Impe, Pat Robertson, Bill McCartney, and many more) promote the idea ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5692

The "Evangelical" Seduction | thebereancall.org
I'd pay double for Hank Hanegraaff, Jack Van Impe, Chuck Colson, Norm Geisler and the many other evangelicals presently fueling the ecumenical affair with ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5829

Heeding the Berean Call | thebereancall.org
Prophecy expert Jack Van Impe repeatedly praises the Pope on TV and quotes "Our Lady of Fatima" favorably. The apparition at Fatima (surely not Mary! ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5882

A Call To Repentance | thebereancall.org
5 Jack Van Impe hailed the Pope as a staunch defender of the faith and calls the Catechism of the Catholic Church biblical. Billy Graham has praised Bishop ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/2430

Earnestly Contend | thebereancall.org
Jack Van Impe has hailed the Pope as a staunch Christian and defender of the faith. J.I. Packer, a signatory to ECT, called John Paul II “a fine Christian ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/2565

From Let Us Reason:

The Gospel of Unity
Jack Van Impe, B. Hinn, P. Crouch, and numerous others endorse the Pope. Many consider him a real born-again, evangelical charismatic. ...
www.letusreason.org/Curren13.htm

Jesus Who
Hank Hannegraaf, Jack Van Impe and James Dobson spoke out against it (Probably some others I did not hear about). We should have an immediate collective ...
www.letusreason.org/Apolo18.htm

Prophets of the 2nd Advent 2000
Jack van Impe-On his television broadcast, Van Impe declares: "The Bible teaches that an Antichrist comes to power (Rev. 13:1) - a world dictator . ...
www.letusreason.org/Proph7.htm

The Roman Catholic Issue
... Billy Graham, Chuck Colson, Bill Bright, Jack Van Impe, Pat Robertson, Ted Haggard and so many other “evangelical leaders” have accepted Romanism. ...
www.letusreason.org/RC25.htm

THERE IS PLENTY MORE I COULD POST BUT I THINK THIS PRETTY MUCH SPELLS IT OUT....
__________________
Many will and are doing this...

2 Corinthians 11:4-5: 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted — you may well put up with it!

Answer: Have no fellowship with darkness.

terrilynn
February 27th, 2008, 02:56 PM
Please inform yourselves

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

JVI is apostate, period.

From Deception in the Church:

Ecumenism & Interfaith(2)
Jack & Rexella Van Impe - Views by Bob Hunter, The Contenders, 2000 A number of Van Impe's views on such subjects as: Y2K, and Anti-Christ and ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/ecumenism.htm

impe
Jack & Rexella Van Impe. What a pair! This show proves that Bible memorization is not the ... Jack Van Impe purportedly has memorized the whole Bible. ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/impe.html

Articles... of the NAR and it's leadership of C. Peter Wagner, Cindy Jacobs, Chuck Peirce, Dutch Sheets, Bill Hamon, Jack Deere and others. .... Jack van Impe ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/page3.html

Personalized Research
Jack van Impe. End Times Apostasy. False Prophets, Unbiblical Teachers, etc. Reinhard Bonnke. William Branham. Paul Cain. Tony Campolo ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/personalized.html

POPE ENTRUSTS WHOLE CHURCH TO MARY
This is the same pope who has been praised by evangelical leaders such as Billy Graham, Jack Van Impe, Bill Bright, and Chuck Colson. ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/popemary2.html - 3k - Cached - Similar pages

EVANGELICAL LEADERS PARTICIPATE IN PAPAL MASS
Behold Billy Graham, Chuck Colson, Bill Bright, Jack Van Impe, James Robison, Pat Robertson, and a myriad of other so-called evangelical leaders who have ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/papal.html

False Prophets & Teachers
Jack Hayford of the Church of the Way in Van Nuys, California, is the founding pastor. Two of his congregation just happen to be Paul and Jan Crouch of TBN ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/fprophets.html

JBC Questions Page c) · Jack & Rexela Van Impe
... This preacher said: "[Jesus] is greater than Bud Lite, greater than Jack Daniels, greater than Wild Turkey, greater than ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/door1q.htm

JBC Questions Page 4.
Who claims U.N troops are currently hiding out in U.S. national parks? a) · Pat Robertson · b) · Gene Scott · c) · Jack & Rexela Van Impe ...
www.deceptioninthechurch.com/door2q.htm

From Jacob Prasch Moriel Ministries:

End Times Catholic Misfits - Moriel Ministries
The Misfits’ favorite TV show is Jack Van Impe Presents, a program that caters to their strange hodgepodge of beliefs. Van Impe receives much of his support ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...ic_misfits.htm

The Great Apostasy - Moriel Ministries
Also on another Praise-the-Lord program Matthew took aim at prophecy teacher Jack Van Impe for using a fear of prophetic speculation to get people to buy ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...t_apostasy.htm

Brother Andrew and Light Force - Moriel Ministries
I have experienced this with Jack Van Impe, and Billy Graham with their ecumenism, John Hagee and his dual covenant heresy, and now even Brother Andrew. ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/notic...ight_force.htm

Important Information for Dr. Charles Stanley - Moriel Ministries...
Ted Haggard, Kenneth Copeland, Cindy Jacobs, Keith Butler, Charles Stanley , Tommy Tenney, Jack Van Impe, Judy Jacobs, Eddie and Alice Smith, ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...es_stanley.htm

Pentecostal and Charismatic-Is There or Was There Any Difference
...Preacher Jack Van Impe, who stems solidly from the fundamentalist camp appears to have become as heterodox in some of his beliefs as even the most extreme ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...harismatic.htm

Welcome to Moriel Ministries - Discernment
Personality Temperament Divination Alive & Well in the Church; Eastern Mysticism in Evangelicalism MP3; Jack Van Impe Now Relying On Inca Calendar ...
www.moriel.org/discern/various_interests.htm

What About Peter Ruckman? - Moriel Ministries
... tin-horned punks," "incredible idiots," "egotistical jack legs," ... Lindsey, Kirban, Rockwood, Webber, and Van Impe ... plus the Puritans, Reformers, ...
http://www.moriel.org/articles/disce...er_ruckman.htm

From Dave Hunt The Berean Call:

Y2K and Bible Prophecy | thebereancall.org
5 Jack Van Impe has advised his TV viewers not to fly at that time. Like Van Impe, many noted Christian writers and speakers are sounding Y2K alarms. ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5812

Evangelical Mysticism? | thebereancall.org
Others followed, including Bill Bright, Pat Robertson, JI Packer, Timothy George, Robert Schuller, Hank Hanegraaff, Benny Hinn, and Jack Van Impe. ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/6433

Evangelicals & Catholics: The Next Generation? | thebereancall.org
... Luis Palau, Robert Schuller, Hank Hanegraaff, Pat Robertson, Billy Graham, Elisabeth Elliot, Paul and Jan Crouch, Jack Hayford, Jack Van Impe, ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5204

June 2001 Newsletter: Why Evangelize Roman Catholics
...... Bill Bright, Chuck Colson, Robert Schuller, Hank Hanegraaff, Paul Crouch, Jack Van Impe, Pat Robertson, Bill McCartney, and many more) promote the idea ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5692

The "Evangelical" Seduction | thebereancall.org
I'd pay double for Hank Hanegraaff, Jack Van Impe, Chuck Colson, Norm Geisler and the many other evangelicals presently fueling the ecumenical affair with ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5829

Heeding the Berean Call | thebereancall.org
Prophecy expert Jack Van Impe repeatedly praises the Pope on TV and quotes "Our Lady of Fatima" favorably. The apparition at Fatima (surely not Mary! ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/5882

A Call To Repentance | thebereancall.org
5 Jack Van Impe hailed the Pope as a staunch defender of the faith and calls the Catechism of the Catholic Church biblical. Billy Graham has praised Bishop ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/2430

Earnestly Contend | thebereancall.org
Jack Van Impe has hailed the Pope as a staunch Christian and defender of the faith. J.I. Packer, a signatory to ECT, called John Paul II “a fine Christian ...
www.thebereancall.org/node/2565

From Let Us Reason:

The Gospel of Unity
Jack Van Impe, B. Hinn, P. Crouch, and numerous others endorse the Pope. Many consider him a real born-again, evangelical charismatic. ...
www.letusreason.org/Curren13.htm

Jesus Who
Hank Hannegraaf, Jack Van Impe and James Dobson spoke out against it (Probably some others I did not hear about). We should have an immediate collective ...
www.letusreason.org/Apolo18.htm

Prophets of the 2nd Advent 2000
Jack van Impe-On his television broadcast, Van Impe declares: "The Bible teaches that an Antichrist comes to power (Rev. 13:1) - a world dictator . ...
www.letusreason.org/Proph7.htm

The Roman Catholic Issue
... Billy Graham, Chuck Colson, Bill Bright, Jack Van Impe, Pat Robertson, Ted Haggard and so many other “evangelical leaders” have accepted Romanism. ...
www.letusreason.org/RC25.htm

THERE IS PLENTY MORE I COULD POST BUT I THINK THIS PRETTY MUCH SPELLS IT OUT....
__________________
Many will and are doing this...

2 Corinthians 11:4-5: 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted — you may well put up with it!

Answer: Have no fellowship with darkness.

Billy Graham was on this list...if anyone can call Billy Graham apostate does not know what the word means. Do I agree with everything that comes out of his or anyones mouth w/o checking it with scripture? No, nor should any of you. I stand behind my previous statement.

seekingtruth1
February 27th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Billy Graham was on this list...if anyone can call Billy Graham apostate does not know what the word means. Do I agree with everything that comes out of his or anyones mouth w/o checking it with scripture? No, nor should any of you. I stand behind my previous statement.

Billy Graham has disapointed me.

Wiscane
February 27th, 2008, 03:37 PM
There are core doctrines of the faith that CANNOT be deviated from. Anyone who does diviate from these core doctrines can be considered a apostate....but I have to say many on this forumn are quick to use the word. Just because somone does not agree with you or your interpretation of the Scriptures does not make them a apostate. If Jack Van Impe has strayed from the core doctrines (which I do not believe he has) then he is an apostate. I have to say though he has made some off the wall comments lately about prophecy..but that does not make him a apostate.

I agree.....
he is getting older and not as sharp as he once was. He has said some bizarre things the last couple years since his stroke. He probably should retire.
However, to call Jack apostate is over the top IMHO:idunno

Berean Girl
February 27th, 2008, 03:40 PM
GOD SAYS:


Matthew 7:15-16

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?


Matthew 15:8-9

8 ‘ These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And[a]honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”


Acts 2:42

And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers.


Acts 20:28-30

28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God[a] which He purchased with His own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves.


Romans 16:17

[ Avoid Divisive Persons ] Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.


2 Corinthians 11:3-5

3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity[a] that is in Christ. 4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!


Galatians 1:6-8

Only One Gospel

6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.


Galatians 2:4-6

4 And this occurred because of false brethren secretly brought in (who came in by stealth to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage), 5 to whom we did not yield submission even for an hour, that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
6 But from those who seemed to be something—whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man—for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me.


Colossians 2:8

Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.


Ephesians 4:14

that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,


1 Timothy 1:3-4

No Other Doctrine

3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia—remain in Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine, 4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith.


1 Timothy 4:1-2

The Great Apostasy

1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,


1 Timothy 4:13

Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.


1 Timothy 4:16

Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.


1 Timothy 6:3

[ Error and Greed ] If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness,


2 Timothy 3:10

[ The Man of God and the Word of God ] But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance,


2 Timothy 3:16

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,


2 Timothy 4:3

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;


Titus 1:9

holding fast the faithful word as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict.


Titus 2:1

[ Qualities of a Sound Church ] But as for you, speak the things which are proper for sound doctrine:


Titus 2:7

in all things showing yourself to be a pattern of good works; in doctrine showing integrity, reverence, incorruptibility,


Titus 2:10

not pilfering, but showing all good fidelity, that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in all things.


Hebrews 13:9

Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.


2 Peter 2:1

[ Destructive Doctrines ] But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.


2 John 1:9

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.


2 John 1:10

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him;


Revelation 2:15

Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.


[B]I SAY ON THE AUTHORITY OF THE WORD OF GOD:


Galatians 2:13-14
13 And the rest of the Jews also played the hypocrite with him, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.
14 But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, “If you, being a Jew, live in the manner of Gentiles and not as the Jews, why do you[a] compel Gentiles to live as Jews?[b]

Galatians 3:1
[ Justification by Faith ] O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified?

Galatians 4:16
Have I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth?

Ephesians 4:14-16
14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head—Christ— 16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.

Ephesians 4:21
if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:

1 Timothy 6:5
useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

2 Timothy 2:15
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

2 Timothy 2:25
in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,

2 Timothy 3:7
always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

2 Timothy 3:8-9
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.

2 Timothy 4:4
and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

Titus 1:14
not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.

James 5:19-20
Bring Back the Erring One

19 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul[a] from death and cover a multitude of sins.

2 Peter 1:12
[ Peter’s Approaching Death ] For this reason I will not be negligent to remind you always of these things, though you know and are established in the present truth.

2 Peter 2:2
And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.

1 John 1:6
If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.

1 John 2:21
I have not written to you because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

3 John 1:4
I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth.
:preach :pray :hug

harvest
February 27th, 2008, 06:57 PM
This is my first post and i must respond to this. I've watched Jack Van Impe for probally 20 years and he has never set a date for the Rapture and never would. He was just pointing out that the Mayans calender only goes until December 2012. I personally do not have a bad thing to say about Mr. Van Impe. I believe Jack and Rexella are dear people that love the lord and I stand behind them.

You might not want to look at this site for his notable prophecies that have not come true. He has pushed his book and dvd's with the urgency that the tribulation is beginning in the following year.
http://ministryserver.com/rwsr/part05_Famed_false_prophets.htm

Now he is going on record saying "something big" is going to happen in 2012 of course alluding to the rapture and tribulation events. I think anyone that uses this tactic to sell books and dvd's should be ashamed of themselves. Jesus told his disciples to watch and be ready, and we all should be doing the same, instead of trying to profit on the fears of the end times.

Chris
February 27th, 2008, 07:12 PM
I occasionally watch his program and I did watch Sunday. He does say that he believes something "big" could happen on Dec. 21, 2012, but you have to buy the DVD he's selling to find out what it is. If he believes that's the date of the Rapture then I've got news for him - it won't be. Jesus said that no one, not even He, knows the day nor the hour of His return - only God knows. I've become concerned also with his quoting Nostradamus. I used to enjoy the discussion of the headlines from around the world and how it related to prophecy, but Jack's cons are starting to out weigh his pros with me.

Good points. He's starting to get to me, too. :ohno

davidsage2006
February 27th, 2008, 07:25 PM
[Now he is going on record saying "something big" is going to happen in 2012 of course alluding to the rapture and tribulation events. I think anyone that uses this tactic to sell books and dvd's should be ashamed of themselves. Jesus told his disciples to watch and be ready, and we all should be doing the same, instead of trying to profit on the fears of the end times.[/QUOTE]

Yet so is this site http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com which is selling its products.

manytears
February 27th, 2008, 08:23 PM
anyone that looks at man is going to be disappointed. But I do believe I will see Billy Graham in Heaven someday. I do believe that he is saved. :hat