a day is like a thousand years

[Hootmon]

Highly doubt it.
The way the world events are lining up...

There's been a consistent progressive theme for the past 6,000 years.... I doubt God will lose track of His own prophetic calendar...Agreed.

[Everlasting]

:yay

It's God's Will that is the determinant. As we are told by the Bible to discern the signs of the time; we have to take our earthly time lines ~ obtained through our infinate wisdom ~ and weigh them out as well. God is not slack concerning His promise. We have potentially been saved by grace, but He searches the heart. Having an evil darkness in our heart becomes a big problem. So how then can we be sure what to accept into our hearts, once we come to the full knowledge of the Lord?

:rolleyes


I think the answer to that is: Anything that meets the pure expectations of God. And anything that exhibits recognition of the Gosepel through long suffering, and repentance.



Everlasting,


:spew

Moon over Key Biscayne

[Rondaben]

True, God is outside of time. But the Bible was written to us from Him for a reason. The biggest mistake that people make (and I was one of them) is to believe that there are verses in the Bible that don't have any meaning. Take for instance the list of generations that appear in the New Testament, or the census listed in Numbers. Or more interesting, the decree for how the Israelites were to encamp around the ark in the wilderness, the 'pitch' used by Noah to seal the ark inside versus the outside, or why was Noah "perfect" in his generations.

But by taking a closer look, one can see that they are there for a reason and provide a fingerprint of the author that show His divine nature and timelessness. So, why would it be written that a day is like a thousand years if it was not important? Just telling us that he is the Alpha and Omega should cover it if the only lesson we are to learn is that He is timeless. Ditto for the verse from John that In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
For me there are too many other, more plainly stated verses, to show God is timeless, to 'hide' that fact in the thousand year verse makes no sense.

You are right in that every verse has a meaning. The point of the verse, in its simplist meaning is that our understanding of time and God's understanding of time are completely incongruent. We cannot comprehend a thousand years--the best we can do is summarize the time period with key events. We have a pastor emeritus at our church who began preaching and used a horse and buggy to travel with. Now imagine how much he has seen and he is still occasionally in the pulpit. I can't even wrap my head around his experience of only 90 or so years.

What I was trying to say, be it unclear as it likely is, is that God is not constrained by the concept of time--that his will and purposes are beyond our understanding within our limited understanding. It is like when he tells us to watch for him because he is coming soon--for us soon is a matter of minutes, days, or even a few years. For him, soon may be 3000 years--for in the scope of eternity 3000 years is but only the blink of an eye. Our inability to wrap our head around Gods eternal nature drives us to try to quanitify eternity and infinity--something that we simply cannot do.

[HollowofHishand]

You are right that God is outside of time. Let's put that issue aside as we agree. The point remaining is what the verse is trying to tell us. Common sense would lead us to believe, without a specific verse, that God is outside of time. Genesis 1:1 tells us that God was before time. Time is measured in the sun and moon which were not made until well after we know that God was already "there."
So if the Bible begins with the premise that God was there before time, then why do we need an additional verse to tell us so?Every verse in the Bible has hidden meanings. Some on the surface we know about already. Others are still hidden. Just like Daniel was told that the meaning of his vision would be sealed up until the end of days.
Now the verses where Christ told us he would come quickly do not mean that he was going to come soon. He meant that once the end of the appointed number of days was approaching, he would act swiftly.

[Paidfor]

Define "since Christ." Since Christ's birth? Since Christ's resurrection/ascension? If the former, then the millennium is a few years overdue (how many is not certain, but at least ten). If the latter, then what happens if we hit 2035 and nothing's happened?

If you use 360 day prophetic years

(2007-35)*(365.25/360) = 2000.8