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tanza14
July 13th, 2007, 09:40 AM
Can someone explain to me if a day to God is like a thousand years then why during the Week (7 days) of tribulation is considered to be 7 years and not 7 thousand years

Thank you

tanza14
July 16th, 2007, 09:46 AM
Im sorry but was this just a very stupid question??

Rondaben
July 16th, 2007, 03:57 PM
here's a response I made to a similar post...

The phrase that a "a day to God is as a 1000 years to us" is often misunderstood. It simply illustrates that God is timeless and doesn't work according to the constraints of time. Think of it like this:

You "create" a sequential list of events written on a piece of paper. As it's creator you can see all events at once and can jump from event to event as you please because you live outside of that timeline. Now, you have robot which must experience the events in a sequential order. As the robot travels down the sequence of events they are only aware of the event they are currently involved in (the present) and those that they have already experienced (the past). Because they must follow the events in order (time flows only one way!) they have no idea of the future events they will experience because they haven't gotten there--you, however as the creator, do know all things past, present and future. You can even change future events to your pleasure because your creation hasn't gotten that far in the sequence.

That is where we are in the timeline of God--we are following his timeline of events as we are designed to do. He is at all times past present and future and will adjust the events as he sees fit. This makes sense when we know that all things are done according to the will of God and that he IS the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. How do you define a period of time? with a beginning and an end. Time isn't a neverending stream of activity--it only appears so to us because we are unable to comprehend anything else. When we return to Christ we are taken "out of" the timeline and abide with God the Creator, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit at all times.

Joel
July 18th, 2007, 01:07 PM
a 'week' is a euphimism for 7 years.
Nowhere is the Tribulation called 7 days.

However we can see from the 7 creative days of Genesis 1 & 2 that God preordained the world to last 7,000 years in like image.

Everlasting
July 18th, 2007, 03:02 PM
Our revelation is ongoing. The creation of the universe took 6 days = 6000 years. With all things being considered: God's plan began before our existence. He knew the mistakes we would potentially make, and hoped that we would never make them. Taking in all of the prophet's teachings, and the fact that we cannot find common ground between good and evil today. God's will continues to request rememberance for the remission of sin. It's been that way since Adam and Eve.

:hug


Everlasting


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Moon over Key Biscayne

Veillifted
July 18th, 2007, 03:09 PM
a 'week' is a euphimism for 7 years.
Nowhere is the Tribulation called 7 days.

However we can see from the 7 creative days of Genesis 1 & 2 that God preordained the world to last 7,000 years in like image.

Im not so sure on that. While i personally dont believe the world is very old, i dont think God pre-ordained it to a 7000 year time period. I can speculate easily as to how you found such a specific number but to answer the post i would agree with Rondaben.

The phrase that a "a day to God is as a 1000 years to us" is often misunderstood. It simply illustrates that God is timeless and doesn't work according to the constraints of time. Think of it like this:

You "create" a sequential list of events written on a piece of paper. As it's creator you can see all events at once and can jump from event to event as you please because you live outside of that timeline. Now, you have robot which must experience the events in a sequential order. As the robot travels down the sequence of events they are only aware of the event they are currently involved in (the present) and those that they have already experienced (the past). Because they must follow the events in order (time flows only one way!) they have no idea of the future events they will experience because they haven't gotten there--you, however as the creator, do know all things past, present and future. You can even change future events to your pleasure because your creation hasn't gotten that far in the sequence.

That is where we are in the timeline of God--we are following his timeline of events as we are designed to do. He is at all times past present and future and will adjust the events as he sees fit. This makes sense when we know that all things are done according to the will of God and that he IS the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. How do you define a period of time? with a beginning and an end. Time isn't a neverending stream of activity--it only appears so to us because we are unable to comprehend anything else. When we return to Christ we are taken "out of" the timeline and abide with God the Creator, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit at all times.

Joel
July 19th, 2007, 02:58 AM
4,000 years from Adam to Christ, 2,000 years since Christ... 1,000 year millennial rule and reign with Christ on the earth.

Then the new heavens and new earth....

HollowofHishand
July 19th, 2007, 07:28 AM
True, God is outside of time. But the Bible was written to us from Him for a reason. The biggest mistake that people make (and I was one of them) is to believe that there are verses in the Bible that don't have any meaning. Take for instance the list of generations that appear in the New Testament, or the census listed in Numbers. Or more interesting, the decree for how the Israelites were to encamp around the ark in the wilderness, the 'pitch' used by Noah to seal the ark inside versus the outside, or why was Noah "perfect" in his generations.

But by taking a closer look, one can see that they are there for a reason and provide a fingerprint of the author that show His divine nature and timelessness. So, why would it be written that a day is like a thousand years if it was not important? Just telling us that he is the Alpha and Omega should cover it if the only lesson we are to learn is that He is timeless. Ditto for the verse from John that In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.
For me there are too many other, more plainly stated verses, to show God is timeless, to 'hide' that fact in the thousand year verse makes no sense.

Wildcat81
July 19th, 2007, 08:58 AM
2,000 years since Christ... 1,000 year millennial rule and reign with Christ on the earth.

Define "since Christ." Since Christ's birth? Since Christ's resurrection/ascension? If the former, then the millennium is a few years overdue (how many is not certain, but at least ten). If the latter, then what happens if we hit 2035 and nothing's happened?

Joel
July 19th, 2007, 11:15 AM
If the latter, then what happens if we hit 2035 and nothing's happened?

Highly doubt it.
The way the world events are lining up...

There's been a consistent progressive theme for the past 6,000 years.... I doubt God will lose track of His own prophetic calendar...