The Masons & Freemasonry

[SharpSabre]

are yall tellin me the bricks in my house are saTANic??

[NotesOnLife]

I am so sorry. Are they saved? Pray for them. Ask them questions, see what they say. I will pray for them with you.


Thank you...I do not know, they do somties attend church, and thier house is filled with angels, and Bible Verses, but, latley I have been wondering, as in when I've mentioned the Rapture, and the ask me, "How do you know somone who lived so long ago even existed?" or, " Are we even sure Jesus was real?"

[BlessedinHim]

Jesus was written about in secular History, and even the division of time is based on His being here. If they question if Jesus was real, we could also ask if George Washington was real. Or Hitler. Or Napoleon. We dont see any of them now, but there is plenty of history written about them.

History and Jesus Christ (http://www.gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-exist.html)

Angels? Probably of the female type. I have a few angels in my own home, but they were gifts, so that is why they are here. In the bible, angels are not female, but usually addressed in the masculine. I really dont know what to tell you about all the angels there. I hope they dont worship them. As you know, Lucifer was an angel, too. Well, he still is, but not a nice one. But the bible does say he looks beautiful. He was the most beautiful angel in heaven. Of course, now he is fallen.

[BlessedinHim]

are yall tellin me the bricks in my house are saTANic??:lol2

haha, :chatter that is funny. No, these masons do not lay brick. LOL kinda oxymoronic huh? :shocked well, there might be a few in their ranks that do, but that is not their main objective. LOL

[SharpSabre]

;)

[Buzzardhut]

are yall tellin me the bricks in my house are saTANic??
Not if they are ACME.
Those are made with holy water.

[SharpSabre]

what about the straw? is there straw in the holy water? For
Exodus 5:7 Ye shall no more give the people straw to make brick, as heretofore: let them go and gather straw for themselves.

[Enoch]

Been doing a little research on them, did you know a lot of Churches have labeled them as a cult. Went to a Freemason site to ask about this (NO WAY WOULD I JOIN) they got into a big roar about me just asking. On my research some say is a demonic cult. Also in my research found out they hide this from members who join, when you get to be a 33 degree mason (takes years) is went you have to "SWEAR" to my understanding that is against being Christian and allegiance to the United States. I have not found out what the swear is yet what the words are.:scratch

Members say it is a organization based on the love of all people:ohno just a fellow-ship that has be been around for years.

Anyone have any input?

Hi.

I'm not going to take up for them and too bad the post history is whipped now, I went on a major anti-Mason kick many years ago here at RR. But I do retract *some* of the accusations I had at them in general. I don't see them as "satanic" but they are secular. They can believe in whatever they wish to believe in. I've since met a few of them, worked with them, read tons and asked lots and lots of questions. One I know personally is a 32nd Degree and I've talked and listened to him closely.

It's not that much different than Alcoholics Anonymous in many respects. A "Higher Power" is all that is needed to believe in, a monotheistic One as it even says on the back of our dollar bill - In God We Trust ONE.

Specific names of any deity is frawned upon so yes Jesus is not said outright except in Lodges that claim themselves as Christian Lodges, they are out there. They can be compared to Knights of Columbus, Templars, etc.

Opinions aside, anyone claiming to be a Christian and into it, I just ask a couple of things, although aware I don't walk "squarely" with everything either, these 3 things seem to be kinda major...

Matthew 5
33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.


Matthew 24
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.


Amos 5
26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

Acts 7
43 Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Those 3 things are somewhat blatant but, they don't all claim to follow the Bible but I wonder about those who are Christians in it. But, I can turn to the back of the Book and find this...

Revelation 17
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

MYSTERY G3466
μυστήριον
mustērion
moos-tay'-ree-on
From a derivative of μύω muō (to shut the mouth); a secret or “mystery” (through the idea of silence imposed by initiation into religious rites): - mystery.

Pretty much what is is, the School of Mysteries and then there's this...

Revelation 18
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Now if that is one and the same, how then would God have people in the MYSTERY, if they are doomed to hell for worshipping satan? Doesn't add up so it must not be outright satanic.

Another point, this MYSTERY that the Bible talks about in Revelation if the MOTHER OF ALL HARLOTS and Freemasonry is just a later link in the chain, so it's roots are what is being talked about. And that's just what my research has revealed, Freemasonry didn't really "invent" a whole lot except Albert Pike rewrote the rituals to make up the Scottish Rite. Not all Freemasons are in the Scottish Rite but many are.

So I personally have looked more at what Freemasonry is borrowed from, who benefits the most from putting Freemasonry as the root of all that is evil and who is using it as a smokescreen for their own secrecy? And many Masons are actually already well aware of this and have long spoken of it, even George Washington, so it's nothing new.

I've also found Masons to have some of the most approachable minds around, although can be bad if you have the right intentions you have nothing to worry about. Pray for them and maybe point these things out to them. You'll win more souls to Christ with love and patience than with a burning stake, the RCC failed to win many fans that way long ago.

[Chuck Taylorz]

Look, I am not going to argue with you either. Bottom line is, you are wrong.....period!!! How could you possibly think you have done more research than I have? Especially considering that I am 44 and you are 17 ?


Sorry..but that's Uncalled For!!!I fail to see what age has to do with this...

[Kelly4C]

Sorry..but that's Uncalled For!!!I fail to see what age has to do with this...


Well...I think it's pretty obvious that age might have something to do with it when 2 people are talking about research and one is older and perhaps has done more research than the younger one. Stands to reason imo that since one has been living 27 more years than the other one and was in college when the younger was not even born yet that perhaps he might just know a bit more? I know that the things I thought I knew better than my parents when I was a teen, I have come to find out that they were right and I wrong. We really must give a bit of respect to our elders in some cases in that they might know what they are talking about. The younger generation is smarter than some adults no doubt when it comes to new technology and street smarts, etc. but when speaking of history I don't think so....jmho