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jorjean
October 16th, 2007, 04:04 AM
I spoke this evening with a young woman who was brought up in Masonry. She is now reading the Bible and searching for truth. That is because she found no truth in her relationship with the Masons. ( Her words not mine.) She is having trouble beliving that there is a God, let alone that He could love her. Just my short time with this broken young lady is enough to tell me there is something seriously wrong with the Masons.
ChristiRenee
October 16th, 2007, 12:57 PM
freemasonary = the occult.
Anything that is not FOR God is AGAINST it and therefore ruled by our enemy. There is no gray area therefore there is no argument.
PrairieGal
October 27th, 2007, 06:23 PM
Being "new" here, I hate to jump right in on such a deep subject. However, this subject of Freemasonry has been a particular burden to me for many years. I won't reiterate all that's been put forth on this thread information-wise (which was abundant and good), such as not being unequally yoked, not swearing oaths, etc. A particular thing, though, that gets my attention is the matter of an initiate saying he is in darkness, and wishes to be led to the light. Well, if one is not a Christian, they are looking to the wrong source for "light." If they are a Christian, then it seems they have just denied Jesus Christ as Savior (the Light of the world!) by uttering those words. I'm heartbroken to think of ones I know (and have known, that have died since) involved in this organization/false religion. I wonder if they have utterly jeapordized their salvation. Like many who have posted, I, too, have many family members (tho not immediate family) in Masonry.
I was a member of Job's Daughters as a teenager. My father (thankfully!) was NOT a Mason, so I got in by being sponsored by a relative. Several years ago, after my eyes got opened to the true nature of all this, I got rid of everything I had pertaining to Job's Daughters, and reounced and repented of it all. Job's Daughters is hooked in with Masonry, as are the Eastern Star, DeMolay and Rainbow Girls organizations.
Where I came from, most churches had several members in them who were Mason or Eastern Star. (Also true where we are now.) They seem to think it's compatible with Christianity. I wonder if they are not only blind to the truth, but also don't WANT to hear the truth. I still see a news article from there once in awhile where someone has received a 50- or 60-year pin in Masons or Eastern Star. How do you suggest to someone, especially family members, that this thing they've given so many years to is un-Scriptural?
I can personally vouch for seeing a church's Spiritual wellfare being compromised by the influence of members, deacons and elders who are Masons. And this isn't necessarily a conscious effort on their part, it can be just due to the lukewarmness they lapse into (Spiritually) from the Masonic influence. I wonder if it really gives the devil a foothold.
We have a friend now whose family is heavily involved in Masonry. They're after him to join. My husband said please, don't join them. Our friend said that he knew they were a "cult." We just tried to encourage him to NOT join, and we pray for him. We also pray for those in it, to have their eyes opened and to repent of it. A couple of men have died recently who were heavily into Masonry, and we can't help but wonder, where are they now? One had been very sincerely spiritual toward the end, speaking openly of the blood of Jesus, and telling how he had repented of various things in his life. We wonder if he had had an "eye-opening" of some sort, and wonder just what Masonry was to him then. (He had been very high up in the organization in years past.) Where is he now?
Also, in this particular community here, the Masons do a lot of "good things" in the community and school. I know those things are admirable, but when the nature of it all is hooked in with an organization that is un-Scriptural and un-Godly, where does that leave it? Is it worth it? How does God see these "good things" as he looks on it all?
I really believe it all boils down to the fact that they allow any "supreme being" and other false religions, take bloody oaths, deny Jesus Christ as the true Light and as Savior, and depend on other things for salvation. A false religion.
One thing, I'm not real researched on this matter of the apron they wear. Something about it being their "covering" at the Great White Throne Judgment? But do I understand right that Christians won't be judged at that particular judgment, that it comes later for the wicked? I'd be glad to get cleared up on this.
I did learn one new thing from the posts. I was aware of the "Hiram Abiff" character, but wasn't aware that he was looked to as an actual savior for Masons. That's heartbreaking.
Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life! He is the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16) His once-for-all sacrifice as the Lamb of God has provided our salvation! What a beautiful, free gift that is! :yay :yipee :amen
scrappergirl
October 27th, 2007, 10:38 PM
If they are a Christian, then it seems they have just denied Jesus Christ as Savior (the Light of the world!) by uttering those words.
good point. never thought of it that way, but it sure does make sense.
Also, in this particular community here, the Masons do a lot of "good things" in the community and school. I know those things are admirable, but when the nature of it all is hooked in with an organization that is un-Scriptural and un-Godly, where does that leave it? Is it worth it? How does God see these "good things" as he looks on it all?
well, we already know that all of our good works are as filthy rags...i guess that puts perspective on their 'good things'.....doesn't it?
welcome to the board. great post.:heythere
PrairieGal
October 27th, 2007, 11:58 PM
Thanks, scrappergirl, I appreciate your comments.
:)
mustang
October 28th, 2007, 04:04 AM
I never took the darkness part to mean spiritual darkness. I thought it meant being in darkness about masonry (no knowledge of customs, rituals, so on).
Has anyone read the book Born in Blood? This was written by a man who was not a mason but was trying to find the reasoning behind their rituals and the origin and he thought they actually came from the Knights Templers and the reason for the blood oaths was because of the Catholic Church trying to destroy the organization and killing and stealing from the member so they had to swear on their life they would keep all things secret because it meant their lives. To make it mean more they swore this on their lives.
scrappergirl
October 28th, 2007, 10:34 PM
mustang,
interesting take.
used to be that catholics weren't allowed to join masonic organizations..(as well as some other religions and i had heard that it was also whites only in the past. not sure how true any of that is since i don't have a deeply involved past with it except rainbow girls).
i remember my dad was a knights of columbus when he was younger and when i joined rainbow he was suprised since we were catholic. i always thought KofC was the Catholic version of masons.
scrappergirl
October 28th, 2007, 10:34 PM
PrarieGal,
:tophat
looking forward to posting with you around the board.
=)
PrairieGal
October 29th, 2007, 12:41 PM
Ditto!
:typing
Kieffers4Christ
December 15th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Freemasonry and the Latter Day Saint movement
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The relationship between Freemasonry and the Latter Day Saint movement began early in the history of Mormonism. Mormonism began during the wave of Anti-Masonry that struck the United States in the 1830s and 1840s. Despite this, Joseph Smith, Jr. and many of the Church founders were Freemasons, and started a lodge in Nauvoo, Illinois. There are parallels claimed between Mormon worship and symbolism and the stories and symbols of Freemasonry. In modern times, the LDS Church holds no position for or against the compatibility of Masonry with LDS doctrine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemas...Saint_movement
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