The Masons & Freemasonry

[ChristianGal]

His beliefs surely do tie in with Freemasonry as he has said that Jesus Christ isn't the only way to God.

I've never heard nor seen Billy Graham deny Jesus is the only way to God. Do you have any proof you can post? And by that I mean from his owns words...maybe on his website or in a book he wrote? I grew up listening to Billy Graham and I remember many of his sermons and stories. I don't ever recall hearing Billy deny Jesus as the ONLY path to God.

Revelator - thank you for that post from Billy Graham's website. I have long enjoyed Billy Graham and found his sermons and books very scriptually sound. I've been pleased to see his children following in his footsteps and especially happy with the way they always get the message out about Jesus at every chance. In his later years, I've noticed Billy shying away from controversial subjects...being less vocal with his opinions and personal judgments, but he's old now and has had a lot of medical problems and I always thought he just didn't have the strength to debate the way he did in his youth.

[Daniel1210]

Ut oh. Criticizing masons got me banned from the 'old board' but here's some more info:

Shriners (The)—Allah's Islamic Cult Inside the Masonic Lodge

To most Americans, the Shriners are a wonderful organization. They see men wearing the strange "fez" hat and gleefully riding tiny motor scooters in parades. They see Shriners at circuses dressed as clowns, delighting youngsters. They hear of the boisterous Shriners conventions and are told of the charitable acts of this group—it builds hospitals and so forth. But there is a darker side to the Shriners, and Texe Marrs uncovers it in this revealing investigative expose. You'll learn that the Shriners are Knights Templar, 13th degree York Rite Masons or 32nd degree Scottish Rite Masons. You'll discover the hideous blood oath to a pagan deity taken by these men in a bizarre and occultic initiation rite. You'll discover also the meaning of The Shrine and the significance of the "fez" cap. You'll find out why the elements in the logo, or symbol, of the Shriners include an Arabic curved sword, upside down horns, a pentacle star, and an image of the ancient goddess of Egypt. This audiotape will enlighten you about what goes on behind the closed doors of the Shrine Temples. It will equip you with the knowledge and information you need to unmask this devilish organization and help men who are entrapped in its devilish clutches escape.

Who founded the Shriners? Did this group come out of the spiritualism (necromancy) movement called the "13 Clubs?"

Why does every Shriner attest that he is "a noble of the mystic shrine who has traveled the Arabic path?"

Does the red "fez" hat signify the bloody massacre of Christians by Muslim hordes during the crusades?
Can a faithful Christian be a Shriner? Does the Shrine blaspheme the Lord Jesus by honoring a false pagan god and his "prophet?"

What diabolical oath is taken by every Shriner? Does the Shriner pledge loyalty and fealty to Allah and Mohammed? Does he kneel in submission before the Koran, the Muslim scriptures? What disgusting acts does the initiate engage in?

Is there a connection between the Order of the Mystic Shrine and the infamous Illuminati?

What famous men are known to be—or have been—Masons who were initiated into the Order of the Shriners? Do their ranks include the late Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, former President Gerald Ford, country singer Roy Clark, and the late comedians Red Skelton and Danny Thomas?

How about the Prince Hall Shrine, made up exclusively of Afro-Americans and numbering in its Masonic ranks such men as Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, the Reverend Jesse Jackson, and band leader Lionel Hampton?

What are the concealed goals of the Shriners and of international Freemasonry?

http://www.conspiracyworld.com/more_info/19041.asp?productId=19041

[Christy]

The link to the Billy Graham interview can be found here:

http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=5263&page=31

[BlessedinHim]

Ut oh. Criticizing masons got me banned from the 'old board' but here's some more info:

maybe they were a freemason,

you know, that is an oxy moron. Masons are not free, they are in bondage, and they do not even know it.

We should pray for them to get their eyes open and come out of that.

[tom_roberts]

the world loves masons
they excel by virtue of their ''ties'' to each other

i can not speak for all of them but the one i did know disavowed it on his death bead and seeked Gods salvation

in this little town it seems it was a ''good old boy'' thing
doors opened , contracts were awarded
alliances made

shady stuff and then there is the ''secrecy'' of it all


But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence 1Cor 1:27-29

[Daniel1210]

It's not just the military, they are all over the place in law enforecement and firefighting, too.

[BrckBrln]

If one is a Mason and serving in the military.. all they have to do is wear the Mason ring... and lo and behold they are picked up for promote. Seen it over and over again. A friend of mine joined the Freemason's about five or so years back. When he went to purchase a car... he gave a "secret" hand shake.. and the dealer knew he was a Mason cause he gave it back. My friend got 5000$ knocked off the price after he did this gesture.

Well that just has to be the work of satan.

[Waiting2go]

Well that just has to be the work of satan.

FYI, it IS the work of Satan. ANYTHING associated with Freemasons is the work of Satan.

It would really be nice if you could cut out the sarcastic remarks. This is a Christian board where we come to learn, share and fellowship.

Please go do some research on this subject. Also, listen to some of us here who know about it firsthand. There are several members that have family members involved in Freemasons (myself included) or just know people who are. There is alot that can be learned from those with life experiences and those who have done tons of research.

[Revelator]

Revelator - thank you for that post from Billy Graham's website. I have long enjoyed Billy Graham and found his sermons and books very scriptually sound. I've been pleased to see his children following in his footsteps and especially happy with the way they always get the message out about Jesus at every chance.Your welcome, ChristinGal. I agree that God has used Billy mightily in reaching the world with the Gospel.

Sometimes it's just easier for people to believe the sensationalists and crackpots that inhabit he internet.

[BlessedinHim]

the masons is a ravenous wolf is sheepskins.
They come as that angel of light.
but they are ready to steel your soul.

some of the things they have to agree to in there is horrible.
they have to claim that they are the I AM. that is in one of their rites of passage in the early beginnings.

They have to vow to their innards being spilled out and their throat cut if they do not keep secret the things they are intrusted with.

It has been a little while since I have read up on it, but that is what I remember. They have "sacred" garments like the mormons do.

To ask one what they believe, you will only get double speak, what they say means one thing to them and quite something else to you.