Arkycharlie
July 14th, 2008, 06:57 PM
jamesu1, you are too kind, brother!
Jack Kelley writes, in his online article A Land of Unwalled Villages, the following statements quoted directly as a copy and paste from the article (http://www.gracethrufaith.com/ikvot/a-land-of-unwalled-villages)
And there's one other condition. Israel is described as living in safety in Ezek. 38:8 and the Jews are called a peaceful and unsuspecting people in Ezek. 38:11. The word translated safety in Ezek. 38:8 really implies what might be called a false sense of security, as if there's no basis for the feeling of safety that exists in the minds of the people. One meaning of the word is careless. The safety is more a hope they have than a legitimate condition.
Remember, Ezekiel's word for safety implies a false sense of security, so only the illusion of peace is necessary to meet the requirement.
Here, once again, is every use of “betach” in the Book of Ezekiel:
Eze 28:26
"And they will live in it securely; and they will build houses, plant vineyards, and live securely, when I execute judgments upon all who scorn them round about them. Then they will know that I am the Lord their God."' "
Eze 30:9
"On that day messengers will go forth from Me in ships to frighten secure Ethiopia; and anguish will be on them as on the day of Egypt; for, behold, it comes!"
Eze 34:25
"And I will make a covenant of peace with them and eliminate harmful beasts from the land, so that they may live securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods.
Eze 34:27
"Also the tree of the field will yield its fruit, and the earth will yield its increase, and they will be secure on their land. Then they will know that I am the Lord, when I have broken the bars of their yoke and have delivered them from the hand of those who enslaved them.
Eze 34:28
"And they will no longer be a prey to the nations, and the beasts of the earth will not devour them; but they will live securely, and no one will make them afraid.
Eze 38:8
"After many days you will be summoned; in the latter years you will come into the land that is restored from the sword, whose inhabitants have been gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had been a continual waste; but its people were brought out from the nations, and they are living securely, all of them.
Eze 38:11
and you will say, 'I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will go against those who are at rest, that live securely, all of them living without walls, and having no bars or gates,
Eze 38:14
"Therefore, prophesy, son of man, and say to Gog, 'Thus says the Lord God, "On that day when My people Israel are living securely, will you not know it?
Eze 39:6
"And I shall send fire upon Magog and those who inhabit the coastlands in safety; and they will know that I am the Lord.
Eze 39:26
"And they shall forget their disgrace and all their treachery which they perpetrated against Me, when they live securely on their own land with no one to make them afraid.
So, we have Brother Jack’s very clear statements:
And there's one other condition. Israel is described as living in safety in Ezek. 38:8 and the Jews are called a peaceful and unsuspecting people in Ezek. 38:11. The word translated safety in Ezek. 38:8 really implies what might be called a false sense of security, as if there's no basis for the feeling of safety that exists in the minds of the people. One meaning of the word is careless. The safety is more a hope they have than a legitimate condition.
Remember, Ezekiel's word for safety implies a false sense of security, so only the illusion of peace is necessary to meet the requirement.
And we have the very clear statements of the Lord God Almighty:
Eze 38:8
"After many days you will be summoned; in the latter years you will come into the land that is restored from the sword, whose inhabitants have been gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had been a continual waste; but its people were brought out from the nations, and they are living securely, all of them.
Eze 38:11
and you will say, 'I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will go against those who are at rest, that live securely, all of them living without walls, and having no bars or gates,
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Jack Kelley writes, in his online article A Land of Unwalled Villages, the following statements quoted directly as a copy and paste from the article (http://www.gracethrufaith.com/ikvot/a-land-of-unwalled-villages)
And there's one other condition. Israel is described as living in safety in Ezek. 38:8 and the Jews are called a peaceful and unsuspecting people in Ezek. 38:11. The word translated safety in Ezek. 38:8 really implies what might be called a false sense of security, as if there's no basis for the feeling of safety that exists in the minds of the people. One meaning of the word is careless. The safety is more a hope they have than a legitimate condition.
Remember, Ezekiel's word for safety implies a false sense of security, so only the illusion of peace is necessary to meet the requirement.
Here, once again, is every use of “betach” in the Book of Ezekiel:
Eze 28:26
"And they will live in it securely; and they will build houses, plant vineyards, and live securely, when I execute judgments upon all who scorn them round about them. Then they will know that I am the Lord their God."' "
Eze 30:9
"On that day messengers will go forth from Me in ships to frighten secure Ethiopia; and anguish will be on them as on the day of Egypt; for, behold, it comes!"
Eze 34:25
"And I will make a covenant of peace with them and eliminate harmful beasts from the land, so that they may live securely in the wilderness and sleep in the woods.
Eze 34:27
"Also the tree of the field will yield its fruit, and the earth will yield its increase, and they will be secure on their land. Then they will know that I am the Lord, when I have broken the bars of their yoke and have delivered them from the hand of those who enslaved them.
Eze 34:28
"And they will no longer be a prey to the nations, and the beasts of the earth will not devour them; but they will live securely, and no one will make them afraid.
Eze 38:8
"After many days you will be summoned; in the latter years you will come into the land that is restored from the sword, whose inhabitants have been gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had been a continual waste; but its people were brought out from the nations, and they are living securely, all of them.
Eze 38:11
and you will say, 'I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will go against those who are at rest, that live securely, all of them living without walls, and having no bars or gates,
Eze 38:14
"Therefore, prophesy, son of man, and say to Gog, 'Thus says the Lord God, "On that day when My people Israel are living securely, will you not know it?
Eze 39:6
"And I shall send fire upon Magog and those who inhabit the coastlands in safety; and they will know that I am the Lord.
Eze 39:26
"And they shall forget their disgrace and all their treachery which they perpetrated against Me, when they live securely on their own land with no one to make them afraid.
So, we have Brother Jack’s very clear statements:
And there's one other condition. Israel is described as living in safety in Ezek. 38:8 and the Jews are called a peaceful and unsuspecting people in Ezek. 38:11. The word translated safety in Ezek. 38:8 really implies what might be called a false sense of security, as if there's no basis for the feeling of safety that exists in the minds of the people. One meaning of the word is careless. The safety is more a hope they have than a legitimate condition.
Remember, Ezekiel's word for safety implies a false sense of security, so only the illusion of peace is necessary to meet the requirement.
And we have the very clear statements of the Lord God Almighty:
Eze 38:8
"After many days you will be summoned; in the latter years you will come into the land that is restored from the sword, whose inhabitants have been gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had been a continual waste; but its people were brought out from the nations, and they are living securely, all of them.
Eze 38:11
and you will say, 'I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will go against those who are at rest, that live securely, all of them living without walls, and having no bars or gates,
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