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September 19th, 2008, 01:23 PM
Gog/Magog and Armageddon have different players and in Gog/Magog, the purpose is to turn Israel's eyes back to the Lord. In Armageddon, all the nations come against Israel, it is not just those listed in Ez 38/39 or the Ps 83 wars.
Thomas Ice has an extensive series on this topic, part 1 below, link to the rest at the end of the page.
September 24th, 2008, 07:02 PM
Did you hear Hal Lindsey's report on the economy. He said once the U.S is no longer a world power then prophesy will be fufilled and Europeon power will take place and then antichrist appear and mark of the beast. He was referring to the current economic situation.
September 25th, 2008, 08:28 AM
I beleive the AC will come during Gog/Magog in an attempt to fool people into that he is the savior. (basically Gog/Magog is the devils conterfiet version of the glorious appearing that Jesus will have during Armegeddon. )
September 25th, 2008, 11:17 AM
I never really understood the difference until I read Joel Rosenbergs books. So I guess the way I understand it is they are different. With the rapture happening sometime after. It would be a great way for the Anti-Christ to come on the scene. If we had a WW3 it would leave the door right open for someone to step in crying "peace peace peace!" KWIM?
September 25th, 2008, 11:30 AM
I pretty sure Hal Lindsey teaches that the Gog/Magog war is what starts the war of Armageddon.
September 25th, 2008, 03:00 PM
Hal was speaking about that whenever the U.S. is no longer a world power and the power shift to Europe (perhaps economic disaster to the U.S. occurring now), then prophesy would be fulfilled and then comes the Rapture, about the same time perhaps war with Russia/Iran and Israel. Israel wins miracously. Anti-Christ tells he can bring peace and the mark of the beast.
I was just amazed that perhaps we may be closer than we realize because of our economic condition and the shift of power from U.S. to Europe may be very soon. Then this would be prophesy fulfilled?
September 25th, 2008, 08:45 PM
This is a question that I've been wanting to ask too. It doesn't make sense to me that it would happen before the rapture because if I understand it right God rescues Israel from the armies of Gog, and Israel returns to God. If this is true it wouldn't make sense for it to happen before the rapture if the rapture happens before the Trib. , and the Trib. starts with an peace agreement between Israel and the ac. So how could Israel return to God, then sign an agreement with the ac. Am I right in my thinking here or am I missing something???
September 25th, 2008, 11:34 PM
I also was taught that they are separate wars. But I just wanted to check.
I believe they are separate wars. There are many differences between the two wars. :)
September 26th, 2008, 07:00 AM
I have always been taught that these are two different wars. Gog/Magog comes right around the rapture (either before or after). Armageddon comes at the end of the tribulation when Christ returns with his raptured Christians to rescue the Children of God and defeat the antichrist and his hordes.
Yes, that is how I've understood it. Two completely different wars.
September 27th, 2008, 09:55 AM
My personal belief is Isiah 17 and Psalm 83 come first, and then Gog Magog war. I believe that JESUS is going to come for the Church soon, probably after Isiah 17, but not necessarly before Ezekiel 38. I could be completel wrong, but am still expecting HIM SOON.
ISAIAH 17, v.1 – 5, v 14
v. 1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
v. 2. The cities of Ar-o-er are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.
v. 3. The fortresss also shall cease from E-phra-im, and the kingdom from Damascus and the remnant of Syria: They shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.
v. 7. At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.
v. 14. And behold at eveningtide trouble: and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.
PSALM 83, v. 4, - v. 8
v. 4. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
v. 5. For they have consulted together with one consent; they are confederate against thee.
v. 6. The tabernacles of E-dom, and the Ish-ma-el-ites; of Moab, and the Ha-gar-enes;
v. 7. Ge-gal, and Ammon, and Am-a-lek; the Phi-lis-tines with the inhabitants of Tyre.
v. 8. As-sur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot.
Then go to EZEKIEL 38 and see the end of Gog and Magog. Israel is going to win the first by it’s own power and the second their GOD is going to win for them because no one will come to their aid. Israel will not have to do a thing except set back and watch their GOD win this war for them.
Yes, I belief Isiah 17 ans Psalms 83 are the same events
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