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Tall Timbers
April 8th, 2010, 08:05 PM
I was at the "rebuilt Babylon" in late 2003. It isn't that impressive. In fact, it's pretty much a dump, even the rebuilt areas Saddam worked on.

Images I've seen show that it isn't much, but it was just the beginning. Others will eventually pick up where Saddam left off.

Nightelf
April 8th, 2010, 09:39 PM
As far as I am concerned, there is no question to the identity of Babylon the great. I would suggest ending this thread at this point.

:scratch

clay's nemesis
April 8th, 2010, 09:47 PM
Of course, gog/magog will eliminate radical islam as a force and the rest of islam will likely be as ready to meld into one as the western religions.

Ok, 5/6ths of the 200 million man army is killed during the gog/magog war. That only leaves over 1+ billion muslims left to carry on the fight against Israel. It will only slow them for a moment and not destroy them. It will take an act of god to change their minds and ways.

The 'radical' muslims are the only ones that are actually following the koran - read it for yourself. They consider it an insult to catagorize they're so-called 'martyrs' as 'radical' or 'extremists'.

Islam is far more dangerous than anyone realizes. Keep both your eyes on them, every nation that fights against Israel that is named 'literaly', by name in the bible 'literaly', not 'allegorically', is today an islamic nation...

watchman
April 8th, 2010, 09:52 PM
:scratch I am not at liberty to go beyond that as per the rules.:tape

steve78
April 8th, 2010, 09:57 PM
If this is the case, then you can expect that the removal of the church will not happen in our lifetime. To fulfill the criteria in the scriptures, Iraq will have to literally influence the entire world and become a trading seaport to all the nations as well as a financial center of the world. Considering the violent and perplexing state that our world is in, is this possible in the near future? As far as I am concerned, there is no question to the identity of Babylon the great. I would suggest ending this thread at this point.

Im going to have to agree with watchman on this one. When reading scripture on Babylon the great there is specific criteria that must be met and i will leave it at that.

Nightelf
April 8th, 2010, 09:59 PM
Im going to have to agree with watchman on this one. When reading scripture on Babylon the great there is specific criteria that must be met and i will leave it at that.

What specific criteria? I don't get it.... why can't you share it? :idunno

steve78
April 8th, 2010, 10:04 PM
What specific criteria? I don't get it.... why can't you share it? :idunno

For the same reason watchman can't...I am not at liberty to go beyond that as per the rules. :sad

Tall Timbers
April 8th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Ok, 5/6ths of the 200 million man army is killed during the gog/magog war. That only leaves over 1+ billion muslims left to carry on the fight against Israel. It will only slow them for a moment and not destroy them. It will take an act of god to change their minds and ways.

I don't believe there is any correlation/connection between the gog/magog war which by most is considered pre-tribulational and the demonic army of 200 million which is the 6th Trumpet Judgment upon the entire world during the first half of tribulation.

Most of the nations that are the source for radical islam will see most of their military and their territory decimated during gog/magog. Therefore, while islam won't go away, I expect that radical islam will, by virtue of few survivors, will become a non-player as we move towards the Tribulation.


The 'radical' muslims are the only ones that are actually following the koran - read it for yourself. They consider it an insult to catagorize they're so-called 'martyrs' as 'radical' or 'extremists'.

Thanks, but no thanks. I have no inclination to read the koran. My time is better spent elsewhere. One doesn't need to read the koran to see evil at work in this world, just the discerning eyes of a child of the living God.

Grace
April 8th, 2010, 11:48 PM
Because Iraq isn't one of the invaders. They'll be looking pretty good after many of their neighbors are pretty much destroyed. Their borders will be much more secure and they'll be free to develop and enrich themselves.

Well, it is my understanding (and I don't have time to look this up, so feel free to correct me) that the prophet Ezekiel lived in the 6th Century BC. During that time Iraq had been incorporated into the Achaemenid Empire and remained that way for about 400 yrs. This empire I believe was basically a control of the Persians. So.................. if that is the case, then is it not possible that Iraq was not specifically mentioned because it did not exist at the time that Ezekiel penned his prophesy?

saved by Grace
April 9th, 2010, 12:30 AM
Babylon is in Iraq where it always was pure and simple.one of the big shocks of the first gulf war was the discovery of Babylon.i take what it says about Babylon in Revelation literally.big money has been spent restoring that city.