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ClarionCall
April 8th, 2009, 08:38 PM
All,

I just watched a video on NBC about the US giving $700,000 to help protect the original ruins of Babylon. Looking at this video, I see a conflict between our expectation of the rapture in the immediate future and the readiness of this site to serve as a capital of the NWO. Frankly, it is just ruins and would take many, many years to build anything close to what would be needed to actually run a world-wide government.

So, are we wrong about Babylon being the actual physical location of the capital and should be looking for a figurative Babylon instead? Or, are we very wrong about the feeling many of us have that the rapture will be happening very, very soon?

Thoughts?

Here's the video: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30108272#30108272

big wave
April 8th, 2009, 08:47 PM
I am absolutely positive that the Babylon of the end times and Revelation is the true Babylon not "mystery Babylon" as some would want you to believe. This topic has been addressed several times on this forum.

The NWO would be religion neutral which would never be in the US. I figure the NWO will be setup at a UN location before moving to Babylon,..


JMHO,
Bw

ATYCLB
April 8th, 2009, 09:16 PM
Frankly, it is just ruins and would take many, many years to build anything close to what would be needed to actually run a world-wide government.

Thoughts?

Dubai isn't Babylon, but it does show how fast a major city can grow.



Dubai 1991

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/14/1814874/Dubai1.jpg


Dubai 2005

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/14/1814874/Dubai2.jpg


Dubai 2007

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/3/14/1814874/2007.jpg

ATYCLB
April 8th, 2009, 09:17 PM
Babylon News Bites
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?t=19189

JefferyDollars
April 8th, 2009, 09:17 PM
So to answer her question of which I am not an authority how quickly do you think we can get Babylon to be a commercial world power in order to justify our feeling of Christ coming back really soon. Because if your convinced that Babylon will be Babylon how long do you guesstimate that will take? If anything seems to be in the way of a really soon return Id think it would be this Babylon thing taking a long time to get up to snuff. Anyone have any theories of Babylon being the actual Babylon but not taking 25-50 years for it to be so???? or does Babylon even have to be that way before we can be taken out of here. Cus to be honest I am really rooting for a time frame of much less than that.

JefferyDollars
April 8th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Wow thanks AT! Thats is really encouraging. So in theory we could have a large commercialized Babylon in 16 years if it even takes that long. Hopefully even quicker. But does it even need to be at its height of power before the Rapture??

ATYCLB
April 8th, 2009, 09:38 PM
The thread I linked above, Babylon News Bites, details that there is already a great
deal of attention being shown Babylon. The pieces are falling into place now. I don't
think it really reaches its height of power until after the rapture and during the trib.

John MacArthur's series Babylon is Fallen is an eye opener.
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?p=1129823#post1129823

ClarionCall
April 8th, 2009, 09:39 PM
Sixteen years from today seems way too long based on what the current situation is in Iraq as well as the current state of the Babylonian ruins. My personal opinion based on what I'm seeing happen in the world is that the rapture could occur this year or next (of course could be today!). But, the need for a resurrected Babylon seems to make that timeframe impossible, unless there is a major time gap between the rapture and the tribulation.

I also see no logical reason why the NWO would be interested in going to such an isolated area in the desert when there are established cities they could set up in. Imagine not only the time it would take to build an infrastructure (electricity, water, sewer, transportation, etc), build the buildings, move people there, and the absolutely enormous cost! And why? There is nothing about the site that gives any advantage to a world wide government that I can see.

So, back to why do we feel the need to believe that the NWO will be located in literal Babylon?

big wave
April 8th, 2009, 09:41 PM
Sixteen years from today seems way too long based on what the current situation is in Iraq as well as the current state of the Babylonian ruins. My personal opinion based on what I'm seeing happen in the world is that the rapture could occur this year or next (of course could be today!). But, the need for a resurrected Babylon seems to make that timeframe impossible, unless there is a major time gap between the rapture and the tribulation.

I also see no logical reason why the NWO would be interested in going to such an isolated area in the desert when there are established cities they could set up in. Imagine not only the time it would take to build an infrastructure (electricity, water, sewer, transportation, etc), build the buildings, move people there, and the absolutely enormous cost! And why? There is nothing about the site that gives any advantage to a world wide government that I can see.

So, back to why do we feel the need to believe that the NWO will be located in literal Babylon?

generic answer, the Bible. and the Euphrates River as mentioned specifically in Revelations

JWX2
April 8th, 2009, 09:49 PM
Personally I think Babylon is "Rome"...Just my feeling from reading scripture!!!